I found this interesting post at Buddy's blog and couldn't resist bringing it over. Either he IS this poster (fighting with his alter egos again?) or it's someone who has no clue about how JP has been caught in all his lies.
I will attempt my own version of a Polly Graf.
FROM JP'S BLOG:
((Anonymous said...
"Well, at least 7:59 we can post evidence when we have to. Where's John's evidence? "
"LOL what claymate evidence? Claymates evidence is to reject John's or to try and say it is all manufactured......
**Well the story WAS manufactured in JP's mind and his little friends helped him manufacture the rest.**
"Take it or reject it as you will, John has produced tangible items (a towel,.."
**Welllll, no he hasn't because he told 'we know who' in email back and forth over the course of a day just a couple days before he went on HS that the NE made that up along with 1/2 the article they printed. TC DOES HAVE those emails.**
"....a hotel reciept,...."
***Well, yeah because he went back on the 10th to pick up a receipt for the 2nd when he had one of his "clients" with him in room 207. He thought it might come in handy in case he wanted to extort money from a Supastah!
"....IM's and tangible corroborating evidence to his story has been brought forth: the webcam pictures,"
***Guess someone wasn't around when Buddy got busted big time by WSCA who proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that both were fake.**
"Terry Goldman's account)."
**And TG is so innocent, isn't he? He used the same template of Thom Yorke that JP & friends used for his own phony webcam. After posting his fairytale to entertain his friends, Mr. G was deluged by fans and he immediately removed the pic and the parody of John's tale. Later TG lit into JP (calling JP "Crazy") for rehashing Terry's faux pas and bringing his name into things again. TG admitted to a conversation with Clay that had NOTHING to do with Hanky Panky..it was business.... which I personally hope TG & his company lose. That kind of unprofessional behavior shows how untrustworthy that company is.**
"TC, RCA,"
** Huh? Pass that Whacky Tobacky** so we can have some.
"....Details Magazine,...."
**Ah, yes. Another con artist who lied to the FL Claymates and wrote an erroneous article after NO conversation about the Pickle occurred or was allowed. Nothing like free food and entertainment knowing you're intention is to perpetuate the lies and bash away just to sell a rag mag for men.**
"...Matt Ehlers at The News & Observer,...."
**Ummmm, what about Matt Ehlers? He wouldn't give Pickle the time of day. Afterall, he was with Clay and Clay's family when the Boston Webcams were supposed to have taken place. Funny thing is BECAUSE Matt and Clay's family were with Clay, he booked a suite for ALL (Clay, Matt, Clay's mom and brother) at a posher hotel... which WASN'T the Wyndham Hotel (which WAS used for the background in those webcam phonies). Funnier even is whomever used the cell phone pics of Clay's jacket from that day in Boston (at the buses) forgot to fade out Jerome's face from the bus window that reflected on the cell phone which, in turn was in the webcam phonies.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA .............. Can we say DUMBASS?
"the National Enquirer, and others (from tabloids to mainstream media)have not produced nor found anything in 8 months that invalidates John's account."
***Well, blow me down! Why do you suppose they haven't invalidated John's account? BECAUSE someone near and dear to us here offered proof to Mr. Butterfield and he replied that he didn't want anything that proved Clay's innocense...he wanted the scandal.
Butterfield was not the least bit interested in the truth, he wanted the lies because it would sell. Mainstream media isn't interested in the story because they are all too familiar with these scams on celebrities and THEY can get sued. Tabloids WANT to get sued because it's advertisement for them.
What happened is Clay ignored them as well...no advertising...bummer.
Posted at JP's blog at 8:26 PM
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BR-549. Yeeeeeee Haw!
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JP's blog is so stupid.
That's because he's an idiot!
It is he and only he arguing with himself.
"I'm not wrong"
"Yes you are"
"I'm not short"
"Yes you are"
"I DO have a d*ck"
"Wait a minute, I REALLY don't"
Loved the timeline! I knew about the Boston webcams being taken at the buses and photoshopped onto a background of a Wyndham Hotel bedroom where Clay did NOT stay. There was no Boston schoolteacher.
Buddy surfs the gay websites looking for model-types (who probably don't even know their photos are being used) as evidence of Clay's trolling ways, when it is Buddy who is doing the trolling and then transferring his behavior onto Clay. It is clear to all who care to search out the truth that Buddy is looking for his own easy hook-ups just by checking out his nude photos online. He blamed the Clay fans for his losing his job. He lost his job because of those photos. He outed himself to the NE knowing he put his job at risk but the upside (celebrity and its perks) would be worth it.
He even blamed the fans for Sprint turning off his phone. That's a lie. He never paid his bill. Buddy doesn't believe in paying bills. His hobby is filling out those credit card applications that come in the mail and then maxing out the cards. His credit is terrible and has been for years. His mother even had to co-sign on a loan for his FL condo that he shared with his boyfriend. His "S" corporations all went belly-up because there was no activity and he never paid the taxes. There's a bankruptcy, eviction, a foreclosure and two near-foreclosures in his past, and all of this is in the public record, but Buddy's minions are either too stupid to do any research or they know he's lying, but their hatred of Clay is so great, they really don't care.
There is irrefutable evidence of Clay's whereabouts on the evening of January 2nd and there are witnesses. RCA is very well aware of this, and knows none of these allegations are true. So does the mainstream press.
This was an organized effort to destroy Clay's image and hence his career. The prize for Buddy was supposed to be notoriety, a porn career and a publisher. Buddy may be obsessed with Clay, but he's also obsessed with winning and with saving face. He won't let up until and unless he's shut up. The charges are bogus and Buddy is a fraud.
WOW,
Well said Anon 7:07pm!
Thanks for that!
Standing O for all of it and 100% true!
Great blog!
I think the next (counts on fingers and toes)few weeks are gonna rock!
I'm quite sure Clay is ready on all fronts.
Anon, you said a mouthful. Another funny is that phony Thom/Clay are sitting in a room with long drapes and the headless torso is in a room with short curtains.
Strange how Clay would be gutsy enough to parade around in the front room stripping with Matt Ehlers in one bedroom and his family in another. Don't think so.
Oh, yeah! The room at the Wyndham was on the internet as part of an ad...just like the bar in Europe.
OC,
Also he would have had to do it with the child around and the childs Mom and Dad who all ate meals together.
No way it happened and it was totally amateur looking anyway. My 8 year old nephew could have done a better job with Crayons and elmers glue for pete sake!
The bar in Europe had the crappily (new word) done copy paste of CA's CD picture in it didn't it?
WRU, that is one phony pic I didn't see. I just didn't bother.
Oh God! WRU I just read your previous comment about having no dick. Running to the bathroom before I pee myself.
I should have warned you, sorry;)
I should have added:
"I hate pickles"
"No I don't"
"I guess I AM the pickle"
PaulASS thinks that Diane Sawyer would interview him on blind faith. She'd do an in-depth background check on him to include any and all psychiatric reports and interviews with ex-boyfriends and military personnel, Remax realtors and Quality Inn personnel, whose stories do not match up with PaulASS's. To say nothing of his credit history, which alone would provide motive for his being a sleazy opportunist.
Won't happen anyway. Diane has known Clay for three years and she knows him fairly well. There's no way Clay would ever do anything for which he's being accused, especially by someone with such a dubious past.
*::brushes hands together::*
BUSTED
Anonymous said...
jeez, this blog is a fu*king eye opener. I thought claymates a bunch of goody goody old ladies. How wrong I was!!! They're some mad crazy fu*ks.
10:53 PM
I'd like to see Buddy get out of this one.
I know Tinny's members.. I think they're up to some shady business over there. Why else go private? It was right after they started their projects. John too seems to have disappeared since they went private. I don't trust em over there.
OC - I think this is your best Blog ever - thank you! Also loved Anon at 7:07's post!
I keep thinking how all the tabloids had people all over the place in Raleigh and Charlotte while Clay was doing the AI thing - they were searching high and low for any dirt on Clay and found nothing. Isn't it funny how Paulus now has so much crap that he claims to know 1st hand.
What a complete Asshole - I pray that his days are numbered!
Groucho is back on pickle's blog I see with the vulgar racial stuff.
New cover CD found.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/betty4611/Clay%20Misc/cmm884622c.gif
Let's not forget that Buddy's own sister outed him as an obsessed celebrity stalker. What are the chances that Buddy's own fantasy date would contact him via a gay porn website? Can we say delusional?
Thanks Anon at 8:22. Wait until you see what Polly Graf has in store for you. It will be a history lesson you won't forget.
To any Tinfoil villagers, Cooties and JP believers who may be plotting something... just remember, I have names and locations and the email addresses to media in your area. I'm sure your bosses would love to know what you do on company time. I'm just as sure that the CA Bar Association would love to know how a CA Attorney got herself involved in a smear campaign of an innocent man. Perhaps Perez can expose a certain Canadian lady in the Great White..he sooo loves exposing people.... and would some people really like to know who they have home schooling children?
Does Shannon Kalmbach know a that Claymate lived just down the road from her in St. Pete?
Things that make me go Haaaaaaaa!
reverse "a that" to "that a"... shit!
Yeah that - which post? The one I posted was from Buddy's blog. It was quite an exciting day over there.
Buddy's last post was at 4:49 PM. He only recently returned and put up a new blog. But while he was gone...
If you can handle it, read the comments on the kitty blog beginning around 7:30PM. It was all laid out, all the evidence, all the explanations.
Of course, now the night crew has come in and they never read what's been going on. They just pick up where they left off last.
The Drudge Report is reporting that a former American Idol contestant has been assaulted and robbed at gun point...developing...
http://drudgereport.com/
Top, middle, in red!
You can guess what Buddy is saying about it.
Polly:
What is the loser saying about the Drudge Report story? I refuse to go to the swamp.
Buddy is saying that Clay blogged that he would be traveling around the country. That he met up with someone at a rest stop or someone he met on-line who attacked him. Buddy also was quick to remind us that he warned this would happen.
He has yet to address any of the allegations mentioned in the last blog, during his absence.
This was found at the Williamsport boxoffice site:
"For questions regarding ticketing set-up, sales policy, and any other box office or Clay Aiken concerns"
Ryan Jones
I just love this!!!
My my. Pickle's latest blog was most helpful. For those who keep asking about recent statements about Clay's sexuality, he posted and even more recent one - November/December 2005. Guess he should have thought about that before he posted it.
Oh well. He often doesn't think.
"For questions regarding ticketing set-up, sales policy, and any other box office or Clay Aiken concerns"
Ryan Jones
------
Now that is just too cute.
Polly Graf said...
Buddy is saying that Clay blogged that he would be traveling around the country. That he met up with someone at a rest stop or someone he met on-line who attacked him. Buddy also was quick to remind us that he warned this would happen.
Once again he proves what an ass he is.
Just thought I'd take a moment and give a shout out to LUV M. Hope you're not feeling too punk today and you'll soon be back with us. At least you're getting a little break from all Buddy's shiiiiiiiiit.
I just read the article about M. Gordon. Glad she is OK, and how funny it is that with 5 seasons of AI and over 50 former contestants, asswipe could only think of Clay when he saw this headline. It didn't even occur to him that there are actually other people who are former contestants! Obsessed much, dimwit????
And another one bites the dust! Michigan's ticket office for clay's show is using cellphones to contact clayfans as thier phone system was down and the message at the Tillies venue(recorded) states the usual message but now includes the message that tickets for clay aiken are not available yet. Claymates rock!
I think other venues will jump on the band wagon when they see CA selling tickets like this
Haha! Thanks Anon at 8:22. Of course on JP's blog the ticket story goes something like this: Clay can't even sell out a venue that holds less than 2000 so he's fallen off the radar.
Guess they don't know that tickets at one of the venues is only selling single tickets at present because the others are going to people who want to buy bulk to attend at least 3 concerts at that particular venue... then they probably do know it but the TRUTH doesn't fit their agenda.
Forgot to mention that there's a waiting list a mile long for Clay fans who want those single tickets because they want to sell the bulk tickets first.
Spin, spin, spin, spin.
Clueless also OC!
Sorry to be so dumb...what do you mean bulk tickets?
I don't read scum's blog. How is he backtracking now that he knows the assaultee is Mikhala Gordon? I love it when he is proved wrong so fast!
Sorry, Anon. I couldn't think fast enough but it's not really "bulk". I meant that they are presently selling to people who will attend at least 3 concerts at the same venue. There are a limited number of singles tickets available and a certain number of tickets for people who want to attend more than one concert so some Clay fans that wanted single tickets (one concert only) are put on a waiting list and probably won't know until fall or closer to Christmas whether there will be tickets available for them. However, Clay's fans can get the "membership" tickets for 3 concerts and donate the tickets to the other 2 concerts if they want to do it that way.
also, michigan tickets will likely not be available as single tickets to too many people because the previous leann ticket holders have taken all the centre seats already, as they get first shot. they already expect close to a sellout.
Guess who has another MySpace account?
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=103625115
If I wasn't supposed to post a link I apologize. Thought you all might like to know.
Hi Luv Mar!
Hope you get better soon!
I'm a Massage Therapist, I wish I could have helped you!
Take care,
wru
Hi, Yeah that! It's fun to throw out some goofy stuff to see if it causes a little sweat for the real culprits, isn't it?
LUV, so good to hear from you and at least the surgery went well. That means you're going to be feeling better soon (it is not a dirty word) and can enjoy the CD festivities; you won't be hurting and groggy watching all those TV appearances and what I hear is a video release that will scorch our britches. Must get better in time to sizzle and melt.
I was asking about the post that you said "BUSTED" on...did JP post that about the claymates?
Wondering what you meant about him getting out of it??
Yeah that. It's rather difficult to explain that's why I suggested you go read the comments in the kitty thread, beginning around 7:30. I'm the one who said busted! Buddy wasn't around after 4:49, so I will admit I went to work. I posted Insane Bastard's comments. Other's knew who he was. He use to be a mod on Manhunt! One thing led to another and I exposed JP's lying, blackmailing, scamming extortionist ways! While doing so, others joined in as well. It was great! Oh, and Go John & Clay wasn't around! Ha!
Hi Luv. I'll be sending you an email. Glad to see you don't have to use your nose!
Polly graf - thanks for that additional information - I didn't totally get it because I also didn't realize who Insane Bastard was. Whoa, now that post takes on a whole new meaning for me.
So pickle now has 2 myspace pages. All the better to talk to himself.
LuvM - hope you feel better fast.
Ticked, you're right. It does mean a lot. This probably won't be a big revelation to any of you, but John is a gay on-line hooker. He turns tricks for a living and uses the Quality Inn as his "office"...with a sofa!
Insane Bastard, as a mod at Manhunt (a gay on-line pickup site), knew what John and Cory were up to, which is finding unsuspecting "clients," servicing them for as much as $1500. This was a form of blackmail; for that amount, the "John," sometimes a celeb, a married man, or someone with an important job, such as the military, would get a discreet situation and a guarantee of silence.
Insane was upset that John and Cory were still running their scams and picking on someone "nice like Clay"..."even when he showed them proof!" By that I think he meant that there was never a profile on Manhunt for Clay!
Now to Clay. Rumors were abundant...had been for 3 years. Rocco and Randy's fabricated story hit the Internet and next thing you know, it has legs! JP stepped forward and volunteered to play the leading character. The NE and the tabloids were drooling. Page Six, BM and PH got the ball rolling on the 16th. I believe JP capitalized on the situation, thinking that Clay has this goody, goody image and about to release a new CD (we thought in May at the time), he would pay to prevent any further scandal. So JP contacted Greenberg & Taurig and tried to extort money to stop the story from hitting the tabloids or to keep silent. He was told, in so many words, to Fu*k Off! That pissed Buddy off and he hasn't stopped since.
I believe JP contacted MLE and had the idea of reinacting his story. Although ML is all for publicity, even negative, he wouldn't go along with the phony story because it meant a potential lawsuit. So they used the tabloid version of John's troubles for the movie script.
Here's a statement of defiance from JP:
"JohnSPaulus - Unregistered User (04/10/06 12:13 AM)
I will not falter. I will not quite. I WILL PERVAIL!!!
Claymaniacs get ready to be brought to you knees. I will not be happy until I have destroyed the Claynation.
There will be NOTHING but old DVD's of MOAM. Clay screwed me and now it's my turn to screw him and all of you.
For those afraid of the ride time to get off the Choo Choo cause Johnny is moving on throuh. Bwah ha ha
Be scared and be aware."
Today, Buddy is grasping at straws as his scam is causing his world to crumble. His blogs are pointless. Many others have seen what he's up to.
Billy Masters saw it.
Perez Hilton saw it.
Terry Goldman saw it.
Nat'l Enquirer saw it.
Insane Bastard saw it.
MSNBC saw it.
Rajo saw it.
Jim Brogan saw it.
Roger W. saw it.
Clay Aiken saw it.
They've all called John a liar!
New Blog up and thanks to Polly Graf for putting it out there big time on JP's blog.
Weren't Rocco and Randy the two dudes on a drug binge and one told the other he thought he had just been contacted online by Clay, but then said he might have been hallucinating?
Polly's right about PaulASS. Even Perez said that PaulASS was a paid escort. Don't anyone believe that little Mr. Innocent act he puts on. It was a scam from the get-go. He got in touch with the lawyers and was looking for a payoff for his silence, but Clay had nothing to hide, didn't even know who he was. The lawyers told the guy to f*ck off. The next day PaulASS contacted the QI to have them fax over a copy of the receipt for his stay the week before. He decided to go ahead with the scam. He was in touch with the NE, PH, BM, etc. He was going to milk this for what he could get out of it.
He ripped off Reichen's entire backstory. Reichen, as most of you know, won the Amazing Race with his former partner. He is now the boyfriend of Lance Bass. PaulASS related to Reichen because they were both ex-military, gay, into porn and had acting aspirations. Reichen had also sold a book about gays in the military. Sound familiar?
According to an ex-friend of his, PaulASS also related to Clay because of LTS. He had found his mark and had assumed Clay was gay because of the rumors that had been fueled by the tabloid blogs, not by anything Clay had done. Certain "fans" from one particular board had also been in contact with him, feeding him info, based upon the rumors, which had originally been fed to the tabloid blogs by some of their more obsessed members. Not only would Clay prove to be a convenient mark, as he was moving back to Raleigh, but as a single man, Clay might be open to a relationship, after he was "outed" for his own good, of course.
PaulASS was looking for the same celebrity and networking opportunities as Reichen, and used his backstory when he went on HS. He even asked how much his story would sell for. He quickly realized that the more salacious he made the story, the more the sleazy DJ's and tabloid sites wanted to hear his tale. Deals were made to try to drag Clay out into the open to bring the story mainstream. The tabloids would have a field day and PaulASS would gain more exposure and more opportunities.
He doesn't care if Clay sues him, because he has no money and no assets. He's dead broke. He's also been told that Clay probably wouldn't sue because it would cost too much money and wouldn't be worth the negative publicity, especially since the CD was going to drop. That's what he was counting on; however, he wants a meeting with Clay. He wants to meet the object of his obsession and he wants to show he's tougher than Clay. Remember, he once said that it's time Clay realized that he (PaulASS) was the better man. What he meant was that he would stick it out to the end. Unless he is stopped, he will.
They have NEVER met.
Randy was the one that lied and Rocco, not knowing it was a lie, sent out close to 100 text messages while on HIS coke binge.
Randy is "Randylandd" and his hairline is exactly the same as Terry Goldman's when they shave their heads. Both Jewish boys in New York, Terry 34 and Randylandd about 31. While their looks are different, some are similar but the hairline being the same leads me to believe the possibility of.. brothers??? Cousins??? I don't know, but when I saw the pic of Randylandd, my mouth dropped.
It's Ok, I've been told before that I'm nuts; I can take it.
oh crap:
Are you saying it's possible this rumor was started by those close to TG, or he was part of it from the beginning? If this is the case, this could have sinister implications, because of TG's client list.
Did Buddy go to the QI thinking he was meeting Clay and no one showed up? Infuriated and embarrassed, because he had probably blabbed to everyone he knew, he had to make up a story to hide his humiliation? Then his big mouth sister jumped the gun and went to the tabs with the story? This would work, but wasn't the story floating around the backchannels before then?
He'd already told a writer before he went on HS that the NE made up most of the story, including the DNA evidence, and put words in his mouth he claims he didn't say. The tabs would love to be sued, because they're losing money.
Glad we're keeping most of THIS conversation here instead of moving it to the new blog I put up. Nice diversion tactic.
All I'm trying to convey is that I do NOT trust Terry Goldman in all this. Here's why:
1. He posted some nasty shit about Clay and doesn't deserve the business that RCA gives him
2. For His faux pas "joke" he used a Thom Yorke template for his webcam on his website.
A. Why?
B. How did he know the others
were of Yorke?
C. If he didn't do it, then
someone else did & that same
someone did the others
HE KNOWS SOMETHING, I'M SURE
If Randylandd is related..if it's at all possible.. then he could have gotten Clay's Yahoo screen name from TG... if Clay ever did use that screen name.
TG did a sly backpedal when he got caught by us and then JP called him a coward. He said he did have a conversation with Clay but it was business. Is it normal for an account rep for a company to bypass RCA and go to Clay on an RCA business matter?
Why would someone catering to an artist of a huge client like RCA badmouth that artist in a manner as to validate JP instead of Clay.
He's horseshit! Another Horseshit queen with no ethics.
Anon at 4:53, thanks for your insight into all this. All this gets clearer everyday.
Can't wait to put up Polly Graf's timeline and see what our collective heads come up with. She's amazing!
My head is spinning. What has Clay done to deserve any of this? This is absolutely sickening that anyone would do this to Clay.
I doubt TG had any conversation with Clay about anything. Either he was covering his ass after he got caught and his agenda became obvious to all, or he was commissioned to do it by one of his clients.
Anonymous, Clay didn't do anything to deserve THIS. He does his job, he tries the best he can to entertain the fans who love him and he's human.
A small handful of female fans no longer like him because he's human and knows female stalkers when he sees them. No marriage proposals and no jobs so he disappointed them
The gay community wanted him to be gay and he disappointed them by being straight.
JP is just a sick bastard who can't comprehend pain, emotion or good people. He's incapable. Life to him is where to get his next butthole fix and who to extort money from.
Anon and Oh Crap - interesting last few comments. I must not have been reading in the right places when all this transpired - didn't know about R&R and have learned a little about TG, but this was most interesting.
Can't wait for the timeline.
If Randylandd is related..if it's at all possible.. then he could have gotten Clay's Yahoo screen name from TG... if Clay ever did use that screen name.
OhC - Aside from the Bodybuilders profile for Revnoles, Jan 12 - 15th, the most interesting aspect of the Rocco/Randy connection is the first mention of the Revnoles email addy. Which came first?
According to dates, Randy had the Revnoles email addy two weeks before John's tabloid story hit the streets. If all we knew about this was the article from Page Six, the BM and PH blogs of Jan. 16th, we wouldn't have known about Revnoles@yahoo.com until NE broke the story on Jan. 26th or until JP produced his phony emails on Feb. 26th. But Rocco posted Randy's bizarre story, complete with email addy, on Jan. 12th, before deleting the blog. He didn't reconfirm that blog with the email addy until Feb. 8th.
As far as the Jan. 2nd date, Buddy could have met anyone at the QI or no one at all. If he had an account with the QI, I'm sure he could persuade the girls at the desk on Jan. 10th to give him a receipt with the date of his choice.
The fact that Terry G. posted his "joke" blog on March 5th, well after the Revnoles name was out there, indicates to me that regardless of how unprofessional of Terry it was to post that blog, it does not necessarily implicate him in this from the get go, but rather participating in the joke at the time for the gay community, or Clay. Later, he may have been contacted to do webcams, since videos and film are his profession, but not initially a part of the scam. I could be wrong about this, but we have nothing to base that on. If Terry Goldman and Randy Kaufman are somehow related, that would create suspicion. The fact that Terry, Rocco and Randy all live in NYC, as well as ML, is also interesting.
We must not forget that Michael Lucas played some role in this. We just don't know when he became involved. JP claims he called ML the night before he went to NY to do the HS show (Feb 8th). As far as the why Clay, and why would Terry G do this, remember the gay community had an agenda, and that was to defeat the same sex marriage bill that Bush was planning for June. The most prominent and outspoken "Christian" in America at the time was Clay Aiken, not to mention James Dobson. Also Clay's connection with AI, the most popular TV show in America, would bring extra publicity. I won't post it here, put ML has an entire blog, describing the evils of Christianity and why they must be defeated. He's also a strong activist against bareback sex and in favor of outing, as he claims being in the closet hurts the gay causes.
OK, I'll stop now.
Thanks, Polly Graf, but explain to me why TG would also use a Thom Yorke template? The same person had to have supplied him with a phony webcam shot OR HE did them or he KNEW it was used by someone. There is still that connection with the Thom Yorke thing. THAT is why he is suspect to me.
I agree, but I can't explain something that I can't explain.
I know from my VH1 comparison that the Terry webcam is not Clay, but do we know for a fact it's Thom Yorke? Have we been able to find a similar match as with the other webcams?
To me, the Terry G. webcam does not match the webcams published in the tabloids. Since it seems to be a one-of-a-kind, isn't it just as possible that Terry found his own look-a-like and posted it as a part of his "joke" blog?
I know it sounds like I'm defending the guy, which I don't mean to do, but I can't hang him without something more concrete. I never have felt comfortable with a possible Simon/Terry connection, so he's not completely off the hook with me.
Someone last night asked, "Why Clay?" I came across these posts I saved. I really don't remember where they came from. It may have been that Brat Boy's site, but some of their answers are very insightful and reveals a different aspect of the gay community. These boys/men have class IMO, and exhibit a certain amount of intelligence that we haven't witnessed in recent months.
"I mean how would these folks like it if we said that the only reason why they are defending Clay is because he professes to be a Christian?
Actually, the main reason I am defending him, as it were, is that I think you should prove the event happened in the first place prior to claiming details of it. Especially when said story seems carefully crafted to punch several buttons in the gay psyche that lead one to automatically infer that it happened without wondering about the individual's story or how it seems peculiarly timed to coincide with the launch of his porno career."
"What if he were actually out as a gay man and was accused of the same thing? Would that one change now suddenly make it all believable because you know how those gays are, always on the prowl for sex, spreading AIDS around whenever they get the chance?
Of course not. I worked in a gay bar long enough to know the three most common things that people exaggerate:
1. The size of.....well, YOU know
2. The celebrity status with whom they've done it
3. The degree of non-vanilla to which #2 was performed
In short, being a Christian does not give anyone my automatic anything for practicing unprotected sex with strangers. Nor do I believe that gays particularly WANT to spread HIV, although we manage a rather stellar job of it. But I think most gays want to blame and demonize Christians for all of their problems, and that this whole outing thing with Clay Aiken is a natural outgrowth of that.
And cmh, if you want to refer to me directly, feel free; as everyone now knows, my tochis is plenty big enough to take a little chewing."
"Of course you do, KJ.....that's his point.
I mean, really. If you were trying to get gays to back you unquestioningly, what better thing to do than to accuse a Christian celebrity of raping you and having unprotected sex, especially when it's one of whom queens have been sniping for years that he's gay? That's pushing all the buttons at once, and he knows it.
What I think is really hilarious is that if we homos were as apocalyptic about people having REAL unprotected sex as you get about allegations of it, we wouldn't HAVE an infection rate as a community that still makes sub-Saharan Africa look good. But I think it illustrates nicely that this is more about self-righteousness and "catching the Christian at it" than it is about truthfulness."
"That was a great point that John P. saved Clays instant messages before they supposedly ever met at the hotel.
Why would you save these instant messages, unless you were trying to set someone up?
I'm just Askin?????????"
"I have got to agree with I dunno know on this. I don't see what the public interest is in outing this guy.
Sigh....there are several reasons, Anthony, but here's a few reasons why people want so badly for Clay Aiken to be gay.
-- It potentially provides validation to the gay community ("hey, Clay Aiken's successful, and he's gay!").
-- Since Clay is a Christian, it represents an opportunity for the gay community to stick a finger in the eye of the religious.
-- Nothing attracts attention or activity like a scandal.
In short, I think the gay community wants to believe this story so badly that it's not taking a critical look at the situation, just like it does every potential celebrity "outing"
-- and Paulus knows that the standard of proof is much, much lower in that case."
I do remember that and it was Brat Boys. The guy who has that site is a doll and soooo intelligent and insightful. If the gay community wanted someone to be a positive role model, why not him?
Wow, I clicked on this blog thinking it was the most current one. I hadn't read all the comments on this one. Very interesting post Polly about the gay's discussion. Thanks for sharing it.
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