This is an excerpt of Perez Hilton's introduction to his new Clay Aiken thread regarding the pending suit on the subject of Jeanne H's "unauthorized" book about Clay and his fans (I won't even give the satisfaction of repeating the name of the book). According to Perez:
"The last thing Clay Aiken needs right now is another gay scandal, but that's exactly what he's being faced with...............
xoxo
Posted by on August 6, 2006 7:12 PM |"
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The next two comments are from JP's blog on the same subject:
"John Paulus said...
I think that Jeannie Holleman is a very very nice and kind person and if she has been wronged I hope she gets her justice. I too, thought about using her attorney. Maybe in I will file my suit when the tour begins. Just depends. For what you ask? Ah that would be my little secret."
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"Anonymous said...
I wonder how the claymates will react if the lawsuit shows among the emails Clay has used is revnoles and valleyprettyboy? Have they considered that yet?"
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Jeanne Holleman's attorney of record in a pending suit against Clay, et al is Arlaine Rockey. Someone came by information that Ms. Rockey is "recommended often among the gay community" and has a life partner named ..." A young lady who shall go nameless. It appears that said attorney posted in the book review section at Amazon.com, not a review of Ms. Holleman's book but pertinent information about the pending lawsuit.
So what's it REALLY all about, Alfie?
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1 – 200 of 220 Newer› Newest»I made my choice to support Clay 100% unconditionally - no matter what.
IF he is gay - so what.
IF any part of any story is true - so what.
IF there are skeletons in the family closet - so what.
Everyone has to travel that road called Growing Up and the pit falls that go along with it. Seems Clay's had more then his share.
I'll leave perfection to God.
I'm a very sturdy leaf on the Clay tree. I'm not going anywhere.
Let the Blowhards Blow!
It seems their puckerers would get tired of blowing but that may be all they're good at.
To the last Anon that didn't get through. Couldn't tell if you are being sincere or stirring the turd disguised half positive post. The gays will not destroy Clay; what they do in these instances boils down to destroying their own credibility as human beings.
No, not stirring the turd. Just some thoughts. I love Clay and will always be a fan of that sweet, sexy man.
I think what the assholes have done is criminal.
I am getting so tired of this stuff. I thought JP had apologized, wanted to start his life over and wanted out of blog business.
I want to know if Jerome supposedly manhandled this woman 18 months ago, why didn't she file a report at that time? I hope all of the witnesses come forward to tell what REALLY happened.
I have been observing the Tin site and JP's blog for the last couple days.There are about 15-20 people arguing and mud slinging the same old same old. If you don't read their blogs, they don't have any impact on you, as the real news shows up in the mainstream. They just twist the same news we get to suit themselves. They are no influence on anyone else that happens by and possess' half a brain, which is one half more than the posters on those blogs.
My guess, Anon at 12:20, is because he wasn't getting ready to release a CD and there would be no buzz in the ocean so she could ride the wave.
Does these people even know the content of this book? What is the "another gay scandal" are they talking about?
I only went to JP's because there was a couple comments in there that I wanted to pull out after I heard about them. Don't really get into the Tin Foil place because it's just bashing and nasty language. No hints of things to come that I would take seriously, etc. There are people that hadn't a clue who Clay was before JP's blog.
Anon at 12:54, that's why I was so interested in extracting a few remarks because when someone was doing the summaries of what this attorney was saying, she hinted at some things the author found out that wasn't so nice but didn't write about it. Why the f*ck bring up something like this and in the same manner that PH and JP do? Do you see where I think I might be heading? If you do can you let me know where I'm heading?
It's coincidental, it's familiar, it's on virtual repeat coming from the gay community slugs and now her. Clay has nothing to hide but they all have thrown out nasty little innuendos for the public to see in order to sway opinion. Why? Because he wouldn't turn gay for them? Because he wouldn't advocate or endorse them the way he didn't endorse the book?
All of it just made me go hmmmmmmm.
What is it about Clay that the gay community so desperately wants him to be gay?
Don't they get it, if he was gay, he would have come out when that stupid JassholeP sold his story to the tabloid like LB did.
How long are they gonna' continue these delusions?
Groucho's kaput. JP's blog is so yesterday. No one gives a hoot what he has to say anymore if they ever did to begin with. The tin lizzies are like a bunch of washerwomen standing around gossiping about someone they are jealous of. Their main themes are "can you believe what he (Clay) did?" or "can you believe what they (fans) did?". The best part is that they spend more time discussing Clay than we do ROFL What's wrong with this picture?
OC - that actually sounds like Blackmail.
Holding back incriminating or controversial information to use later in a lawsuit.
Sounds either like a bluff a la PH and JP to me. The good thing is that she can't offer any surprises in Court. But, yeah! Sounds kinda like a set up too.
I wouldn't be blaming the entire gay community on the self-serving actions of a few militants and opportunists.
As far as Buddy suing, let him. He'll just open himself up to further public scrutiny. Such as any psyche evaluations he may have had and his credit history. Either provides motive. They could also take into consideration his behavior towards any ex-boyfriends and might even request access to his military records. IOW, he might not want to go there. But, hey, I'll provide the popcorn.
JP is an adult who was on Manhunt. He went to a tabloid and they have called him a liar. He has done nothing but stir this thing up for almost 8 months. He apologized to everyone involved,and turned around and started up again. He did a porn movie. He has been caught in lie after lie. Oh, he could claim a lot of things but most judges would see that for what it is.
There has been so much documented of he and others inciting hate for Clay. I don't think judges are interested in outing someone.
I think some of what they have done may even be considered blackmail.
So, JP may threaten to do something but it may just bite him in the ass.
I've read every article and commentary I can find about this suit and I'm amazed that the gossip sites that were all over the JP mess, the sites that always love to take potshots at Clay, are all making fun of JH. Well, except for PH, who's going to look like the asswipe he is once his followers find out what the book is REALLY about - heh heh.
This has gotta be making JH and her "team" of wannabe stars feel pretty crappy. JP's also got to be hurting (awwwww) because none of the major news outlets ever carried his crap.
I can see where thay would band together because misery loves company and they've cornered the market on that.
Since none of the commentary about JH is even referring to the original mess, is it hurting Clay? Will this just incite JP and JH to lash out like frickin' rabid dogs? I don't think so. There's got to be some common sense somewhere in that crew of haters.
Am I being naive?
I thought the item in JH's lawsuit that addressed her not mentioning negative stories screamed of blackmail.
JH is now claiming she's gotten death threats! Sounds like she's following Buddy's script. Sure seems like those two have been talking, and I'll bet it's been for quite some time, too.
Discovery will be interesting.
JH saying she got death threats? Now there's a surprise, huh? We don't even know where she lives. Agree! It's both Buddy's and PH's script. Coincidence or Pattern?
Anon at 2:06, no it's not the entire gay community but the ones that we've been exposed to since the beginning of the year. They are all reading from the same script...who the hell wrote it?
I believe if any parts of any of these famewhores stories were true
JP or JH. TC would have done some type of pr and rumor control, they have not, because there is nothing to hide. Sometimes an orange is just an orange.
Does anyone know who owns the Anatomy of a Smear Campaign blog?
well now we know what she looks like, here is a link to story
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=local&id=4446774
I don't know but I sure wish they'd put it out there.
Buddy just posted that he is doing a radio interview tomorrow to talk about Room 207. He hopes this is the first of many during the CD promo cycle. Someone needs to email these people his "apology" so they know what kind of a deranged lunatic they are dealing with.
Anybody know what station? I'll send them the ding dang Webcam busts.
The program he is interviewing on is appropriately called Feast of Fools. It is a gay themed program. Since he is both gay and a fool, he will be right at home.
Too Funny!
I'm beginning to think that this Holleman woman is the one who is jealous of Faye.
What a jealous pathetic little creature he is.
Do you get paid for radio interviews?
I've never been interviewed by radio so I have no clue. Buddy is insignificant to me except for the fact that someone may be stupid enough to want to hear his lies again. It's the stupid people that piss me off for not paying attention and doing their homework. But who knows? He may be doing an interview about gays in the military and how you get out of an assignment by going to the press.
OC you don't have to post his stupid quote but here it is. He is NOT going to talk about his own life because he doesn't have one. Here is his blog quote
Tomorrow I will be doing a telephone interview with FeastofFools.net. Of course the conversation will be about Clay Aiken and my time in room 207 with him. I guess the closer we get to the "drop date" the more interest there is in Clay Aiken- unfortunately since the CD appears to be boring the only real interest will be the lawsuit and the sex scandal. I will provide a link to the interview sometime tomorrow evening/Friday morning. Those guys at feastoffools.net are a lot of fun and tomorrow will be a blast. I am really look forward to it and gearing up for the Fall. By the way, Claymates will buy Clay's CD, A Thousand Different Ways, and I have a towel with A Thousand Different Claybabies. I guess I win again.
It's about Clay. It's always about Clay. He wins again? This guy is crazy as batshit!
Nope! I absolutely had to post it. Ratshit batshit crazy and quite possibly the biggest liar in the gay world. Glad he's theirs.
That gay website link I sent you with the lawyer on it had Manhunt as an advertisement.
These people are in it together.
Book lady and pickle that is.
scurrilous allegations and untruths
He has a washcloth with a thousand of his own dingleberries on it.
Look at Cruise and Travolta - They also had people claim things about them, they still get the rumors but they are living their lives.
Could someday Clay be that big?
OMG
I can not believe that the tinhaters read every post at all the clay sites. I wonder which one is seirra mist over there. Her post go up immediately at tin's after she posts on clays blog. I can't keep up with all the comments on his blog, but they do. UNBELIEVABLE
Anon at 6:48, I'm more inclined to believe that the attorney might be the culprit, but that's just my opinion. Too much of the same MO that was used by Perez and JP. Sounds like a coaching thing to say that they received death threats which is the biggest crock there is. If anything like that happened then I would believe that it's the same ole same ole people that have been pretenders for the last 3 years.
How come these death threat people always know how to contact these roaches? Heap big dog shit if I ever stepped in a pile.
SSDD
Same Shit Different Day.
I thought pickle said he told CA lawyers he wasn't going to sue.
Gee Whiz, I SO thought he was a man of his word,
NOT!!!!
As far as JP goes, Feast of Fools maybe roasting him for dinner :)
As for the lawyer, posting a clients case on a website? Then posting on Amazon to plead her clients case where her book is for sale? If I were a judge, I'd recommend disbarment.
JH's lawyer has Manhunt as one of the advertisements on her site??
If there are real death threats against someone filing a lawsuit, this would be a violation of their civil rights. So, either the authorities will be involved, or they are full of crap.
This is just too crazy! What is going on? JH, her lawyer and JP ??? And I agree about the death threats stuff. Do you think they could use a different script? The same lies...oops.story..gets boring after awhile. It is like who let the crazies out of the asylum.
Did JH think sueing Clay would sell more copies of her book? Does she think that if Clay and Faye do 'endorse' the book that any Clay fan in their right mind would buy this book now? And I am still trying to figure out what JP wants in all of this....a relationship with Clay. JP said he felt a connection and was falling in love with Clay. Even though I don't believe it but say Clay is gay, don't you think after all the JP has done to Clay that Clay would want to pursue any type of relationship with JP....HELLO!!?
No JP and JH sound like opportunists.
not on her site. The link that was given has her listed as an attorney like in the yellow pages and then there is an ad for Manhunt above the entire listing. Still makes ya go hmmmmmmmm.
I think the link is in the comments of the previous blog and should be near the bottom.
http://www.mygayweb.com/business/browse/default.asp?BusinessTypeID=10&p=4
It has scrolling ads. One of which was ManHunt. Coincidence, I think not.
I know I've read just about everything for the last 8 months, but I never could figure out what JP thought he could sue Clay for. Is there a law that says you have to acknowledge asswipes if they make fake claims about you?
All I can say about these people is ... we don't have enough crowns of delusion to go around. Who'dathunkit?
anon 7:59:
When did pickle say he felt a connection to CA, good god!
If calling CA a pedophile and a rapist is a connection, I hate to see what this guy thinks is a bad relationship.
All a bunch of grand-A crap!
Not to mention the death threats to CA and when it was mentioned on pickles blog that sometimes "outing" someone may cause them to commit suicide. Mister Pickle said it would be ok for CA to do so. Also he said when mentioned that CA was almost killed in a car accident when he was in college for swerving and missing cats that ran out in front of him, pickle said it was unfortunate that CA wasn't killed.
This guy is a stalker.
Anon 8:03,
It's all about the attention.
I have no doubt that someone paid pickle to do all of this, it may be TG but someone did pay pickle and the haters to do this.
I was online on pickles site with the pedophile crap. BTW that was when pickle put up the so called 17 year old guy (Who was actually David Chokahi, with his face blanked out who isnt gay), pickle called CA a pedophile and the local rodentia on the blog chimed in. We called him on it and found that picture to be David and he took it off immediately.
Yeah, but he is too stupid to realize that most people would think that.
I don't think he really comprehends that blackmail is not just asking for money. There are other ways to blackmail and he has been doing them for 8 months.
Somewhere there is a straitjacket with his name on it.
Truth Rules, you said a mouthful in Clay's 3 words. Hope he chokes these opportunists with them.
Good lord, I'm reading some of these pickle comments for the first time. Sick. Just sick.
How pathetic is PaulAss when the highlight of his sorry life is bragging that a celebrity boinked his dank a$$.
He bragged that he wanted to confront Clay at a concert, but he's such a coward, he didn't even have the guts to show up at Kelly's Raleigh concert for fear of running into Clay. He said he was having too much fun boating on the lake in Charlotte, but he was seen in Raleigh by more than a few people during the same time period he claimed he was in Charlotte. A total chickenbleep.
He wanted to be Clay's Reichen. He stole Reichen's back story for his own, and then went public with it before Reichen did. Now he's communicating with JH; in fact, she's probably his "inside the family" source. Birds of a feather...
Rest assured he's being paid and this is the second wave. He's so cocky and thinks he's going to get away with it. So much for his apology and his wish not to hurt Clay. Such a pathological liar and a total psychopath.
He's a small man with a tiny dick and manure for brains. His day is coming, but it won't be what he's hoping it will be.
It is thouht that this is all Reichen/Lance story that pickle tried to manipulate into he/CA too many simularities.
Oh, no doubt, Anon. That was like one of the pieces of the puzzle that was missing. Now it's just a matter of WHO is cutting the checks.
Some questions we have to ask ourselves:
Why would JH seek out a gay attorney?
Is JH gay? Or did someone seek her out and encourage her to file a law suit?
Who is Armistead Maupin?
"Maupin is a gay writer who left the South for a more hospitable and glamorous city where he would find success. Perhaps it's something in the water that comes out of the Upper Neuse, but as Maupin notes with a laugh, "I tell people that three of the most famous people from Raleigh are gay: David Sedaris, Clay Aiken and Armistead Maupin." (Aiken has not confirmed the persistent speculation about his private life.)"
http://www.indyweek.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A35311
It would appear that Maupin, similar to Michael Lucas, is a gay, outing activist.
http://www.glbtq.com/social-sciences/outing,3.html
Why would innuendos be made about events or circumstances not contained in the book?
Today Faye is 60 yrs. old. JH is 50 yrs old. It's been 32 years since JH was 18. Clay is almost 28. Since Faye did not marry until she was 33, whatever set of circumstances occurred when JH was 18 is totally irrelevant to her case. Vernon is dead and therefore cannot defend himself, so this information would not be allowed in a courtroom; it's hearsay. Why would JH bring this up?
Is the McGhee daughter, Donna, the same "Aunt Donna" Clay refers to in LTS regarding the Ellen show?
And...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armistead_Maupin
we might ask ourselves about someone from the OC being involved with Wikipedia and who refuses to remove references of JP and CA as though the shit happened.
I don't think I like this game that these people are playing with others' lives.
Thanks Polly Graf.
Jeanne Holleman claims that Amaryllis has been like a mother to her for fifty years. Has Holleman lived in that house for 50 years???? No one seems to be able to answer that question.
"Has Holleman lived in that house for 50 years????"
Well, no. According to the complaint, at one point she lived in Wilmington.
It's like saying, "I held him when he was two weeks old; therefore I've known him all my life!"
JH was interviewed on WTVD last night. She took advantage of Nanny McGhee. The reporter talked to Nanny at her home yesterday and Nanny said JH is lying about how well she knew Clay. They were repeating the clip again at noon.
This isn't what this is about! We all know what this is about. It's that subject we know it's about, but everyone says it isn't about. Got that?
Sooooo... here we have PH with timing, death threats, appearances, innuendo, pimping (his site and ass)and gay.
JP: timing, death threats, appearances, innuendo, pimping (his butthole, DVD and someone else's schlongs) and gay.
JH (?)& Attorney (Gay): timing, death threats, appearances, innuendo, pimping.
Well, slap me silly! Could the GAAP (do I have that right) be paying for all this? (still not taking Terry Goldman out of the mix yet).
Good job, OhC!
Let's also not forget how AI5 began with Simon and Randy making homophobic remarks, calling attention to GLAAD and LGBT! Have you ever known them to do that before? Why would they even showcase those auditioners in the first place, none of which were selected.
And someone said this isn't about being GAY??
That's just it Luv, he has no grounds because everything he's said about Clay is a lie and he's proven he's never been up close and personal and we've only mentioned 1 of the physical reasons why we know this. Buddy is only in it for publicity for himself and bad publicity for Clay.
That bastard is expecting a payday of some sort because he ain't working.
The attorney who is working on a contingency for this chick couldn't possibly expect a dime because they were losers going in and she had to have known it. The gal's letter to Faye already classifies her as a candidate for the Twilight Zone plus attempting to make money off Clay in the past has established the con artist pattern.
The attorney wouldn't have done this without expecting a payday.
The rest of the characters in this bad play are in it for the joy of seeing someone fall only Clay and his fans fooled them. Nobody buckled under the pressure.
They've got to be really pissed right now.
So it's GLAAD and not GAAP...LOL Well they do seem to have a Gaap from most when it comes to proper behavior toward their fellow man.
So who will be the first to find the link between this attorney and GLAAD?
Ready, set, GO!
The plot thickens! I tell ya....you all should be working for the FBI!!! JP ain't gonna know what hit him!!! He's going down. And, sooner rather than later!!
Hello!! She has a connection with LGBT.
She is also in the Real Estate business!!
http://www.realestatepros.org/states/northcarolina/charlotte/Arlaine_Rockey_999436951.html
Sorry, but this part always cracks me up. Is this normal for an attorney?
"Jeannie Holleman and her attorney Arlaine Rockey are available for comment, interviews and appearances."
Talk about frigging famewhore bitches. Who is going to take these people seriously?
Another thing with Buddy is that he went down a long time ago with his HS interview and then WSCA busting the fake webcam photos and the fake IMs being proven lies... only Buddy won't stay down. Chexxxy was right; they won't write Buddy a check unless he accomplishes his mission. Buddy blew it so now we have this and the chicks blew it when Clay fought back unexpectedly.
What the hell is next?
She links GLAAD on her site:
http://hometown.aol.com/afoggyday/page4.html
and look this over,,,
V=http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GayCharlotteForum/messages/501?viscount=100
Perez Hilton used to work for GLAAD as a production manager. There's a connection right there. If he is the original valleyprettyboy as is claimed, he could have been the one who hired PaulAss only to cut ties when the Page Six scandal erupted. PaulAss eventually posted as vpb on gay porn sites pretending to be Clay and he got caught in the act.
Now PaulAss is talking about suing Clay? For what, ignoring him? He has no grounds, other than his lies and they can't be proven in court. He just wants the publicity and notoriety and access to Clay, as it may be the only way he'll ever get to meet him. Plus, if there's a payoff, it might be contingent on PaulAss's ability to force the charges into the mainstream.
PaulAss needs the money, as he's in debt up to his eyeballs and has been for years. Not that he pays his bills because he usually doesn't. He's a deadbeat. However, he wants to be a celebrity with all its perceived inherent perks, yet he has no discernible talents, unless you count being a leech and a pathological liar as talent. Therefore, he's trying to hook his identity to Clay's star, hoping some of it will rub off. He wants to walk the red carpet and be seen in People. He wants to be treated like the STAH he yearns to be. This was supposed to be a win-win situation for him in his own delusional mind. He weighed the downside of losing his job to the upside of all the perks and opportunities he thought would come his way. Notoriety for "outing" Clay (whether it's good press or bad press, it's still press to PaulAss), and perhaps a meeting with Clay, which would be the ultimate scenario for this freakazoid. Clay was going to be his sugardaddy, in one way or another. He's such a narcissist, he's upset that Clay can resist all the lusciousness that is PaulAss. Delusions of grandeur, indeed.
Rats! You may have to put that last link on 3 lines in order to get to the destination.
"he's upset that Clay can resist all the lusciousness that is PaulAss".
Yeah! With him you get to play "PAS"... Pick a Schlong!
He can talk all he wants but he has no grounds to sue.
He knows damn well Clay can prove where he was on that January day.
LOL.. Polly Graf. I am soooo not gay and was looking for GAAP and I still have no idea what LGBT stands for (ducking).
Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender.
Thanks Truth for making the point that our guy is a clever one indeed. As long as he says nothing and keeps the press from asking, JP doesn't get his fame.
Thanks folks. I've led such a sheltered life. GAWWWWWWD!
Next question is why would someone who has done such great work for victims of abuse then turn around and take a chance on trashing her career by trying to trash someone else's? Someone so innocent that it makes you sick to think about it.
LGBT = Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender
GLAAD = Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation
"Other proponets of outing, notably New York City columnist Michelangelo Signorile and writer Armistead Maupin, have argued that prominent individuals should be outed in order to illustrate that homosexuals are everywhere and include some of the most admired people in the world. Among the celebrities who have been outed in gay newspapers have been Hollywood moguls Barry Diller and David Geffen, actors Richard Chamberlain, Jody Foster, and Rosie O'Donnell , fashion designer Calvin Klein, publisher Jann Wenner, and media titan Malcolm Forbes."
Anon at 1:31, don't know who you are but that summary was much appreciated. That goes for everyone who has done the digging over the last few month. I get ideas in between working and you have done a service for everyone else who is trying to figure out WTF!
So why can't they be anti-defamation without pulling out all the stops to defame someone else.
And they call others hypocrites?
Just went back and reread the Amazon.com fiasco. The attorney refers to JH as "Jeannie"; Pickle refers to JH as "Jeannie".
GLAAD does not condone outing anyone against their will.
Thanks for clearing that up, Truth Rules. It's Gay OPs that does the outing so if PH was working with GLAAD and he's doing a boatload of outing, then he is a hypocrite. Hmmmmmmmm.
Buddy claims he will be doing interviews with the New York Daily News and a radio station out of Atlanta. He is vowing to give Clay bad press all the way through his CD promotion. This guy is out of his freaking mind!
I doubt the NY Daily News is interested in Buddy's lies about Clay. They don't want to get sued for publishing an interview with a known and proven liar. Maybe he's going to talk about his military experience. I'm sure there are lots of them.
Bwahahaha... I just picked up on that. A radio station in Atlanta, right there with Clay's Attorneys. Hope Buddy tells them which station so TC can tune in.
Johnny boy is going to hang himself and I can't wait.
Why in the hell would any of these people want to interview him now when the big news is the lawsuit?
Could it be Johnny is pissed off at the amount of attention Jeannie is getting and he's playing a game?
You lose, Johnny...which is no surprise since you are a loser.
Maybe the NY Daily News would be interested in the pics I have of THE pickle
But is JH really getting that much attention??? I mean the day that it was announced there was some press but is the media really paying attention to it??
I hate this man with the heat of a thousand suns. I literally HATE him.
I hope with all that I have that he gets exactly what is coming to him and he gets it soon.
I've never wished ill will on another but this man deserves every ounce of hate that is spewed about him.
Anon 4:59,
I'm right there with you.
How to we know that JP is going to get his? Believe me, I want to see the little pathetic scumbag cockroach to be squashed. He hasn't been silenced or has 'gotten his' since this crap started. It is just tiresome.
OC he says the interviews are about Clay. Buddy thinks he is some kind of A List celebrity. What a loser! Poor Clay :(
We don't.
Howard Stern re-ran Buddy's interview today?? Plus he did the interview with FOF and has two more pending.
He is beside himself over the fact he has more interviews right now than Clay does.
He is an idiot and more people will realize that this is stalker type behavior. I do think he will cross the line eventually. Most everyone has said that even if this were true, he has gone too far.
He may at some point be charged with blackmail.
After reading Casey's post, I am really, really depressed. What is going on?
That sounds like a John Paulus post answering himself. He's up to his old tricks playing all the parts because there are probably very few who pay attention to him anymore.
Maybe one of his voices will eventually convince him he's nuts.
That is a silly conspiracy theory from someone trying to stir the turd. Roger W. would not have gotten as sucessful as he has if he were to try something like this. I don't believe a pic exist of Roger and JP. That is bullshit unless its a gay thing. Clive thinks Clay is talented. He has said so many times. That is someone or JP writing that. I wonder what Clive Davis would say if he heard this?
If they didn't want Clay to be on the label, they would have dropped him. Think about it.
That is how gossip gets started.
Now that I look at the Terry Goldman remark I think he's mocking us/me. LOL...fool doesn't know what will happen if he does the interview with NY Daily News. He's amusing himself like the whacko he is.
His apology should be sent to anyone who is dumb enough to interview him so that they can see what a wacko he is. One minute he's all weepy and apologetic, the next he's back to talking smack about Clay.
Aren't radio and TV shows rerun all the time in the summer?
I call bullshit. There is no picture of Roger and John. Never was and never will be. Roger would not compromise his job by associating with a limpdick scumbag who failed at porn. Would he want to be known as the guy who was in cahoots with a stalker famewhore. Clients and opportunities would dry up instantly. This is just some hater trying to sound connected yanking our very sensitive chains. This person is planting a seed and playing on the current insecurities.
and yea, Emach enters....Bitch!
From Bolt:
WOW CAS! I bow before you!!!! Can you please post what was said? I may have blocked the beeotch 'cause I didn't see anything but "Mamas'pot" predictable accusation.
BTW, FRIEND! (you know who you are) THANKS!
Thanks {{{Cas}}} for defending me and the fandom. Now let me address this little issue and I'll be through.
THIS kind of statement below is what the prosecutors for that lady suing *OMG NOT POSSIBLE* Clay should pick up:
" Aug 8 2006 3:04PM
Oh honey..we have a list of addresses of people who need to feel the Clay love. I'm sure opening their mailboxes and getting non returnable opened CDs will just make them glow. "
This is not only spooky, but also all kinds of wrong, (at all levels) and it confirms the lady's claims of their intimidation tactics. Why would anybody from another fan base keep files on rival fan bases, is beyond insane, and ADDRESSES??? isn't that considered stalking, but again, considering we're talking mutt behavior here, what else can you expect?
See? I said back in 2003 that Clay's fans would be responsible for his own demise. I think it's coming to pass. They want to be oh so loyal and militant and forget that their mouths will always give them away. A lawsuit which the ink has not even dried up on it, was filed and accuses Aiken and Momma Aiken (and others as well), of basically what amounts to intimidation,harrassment and guess who they used to achieve that? Yes ladies, MUTTS. They have the proof (just like we did back in 2003) of their own big mouths words and description of actions taken. They also have momma Aiken's "Instructions" and all, in black and white. SO, momma denied it all and so did sonny. But THEN, you go to Amazon and read pages upon pages of the very things momma is accused of and which she denied, and then come over to Bolt and find posts claiming to having "addressess" of "people". See? your problem is that you think your too slick and you are WAY too slick for your own good. You can only run so fast until someone catches up with you.
I don't care anymore what they say about me. It sure is nice to have a clear conscience and be able to have a life without worrying who likes or not like Ruben. I've been busy alright, but promoting Ruben and his new soon to be HIT, "Change Me" which is picking up P.R.E.T.T.Y. fast. So why should I stress over someone elses' obssessivenes. God bless them is all I can offer.
God has a funny way of doing things. He DOES love his children. Thanks Dad!!!
http://myspace.com/rubenstuddard
September 26, 2006
THE RETURN
RUBEN STUDDARD
BUY IT, DON'T BURN IT!
Like I said in different words. It's JP playing with himself trying to get his 2 inch floppy to do something besides pee in his shoes.
Clay has made a statement. These people tend to want to act like it was not made. It was - does CA have to shout it from the rooftops everyday. CA has definelty paid his dues now.
I saw that conversation. The clay fans were having a nice conversation when the beeyotches moved in to take it over and slam Clay's fans. The girls were talking about Groucho's 2nd to last blog before the internet shut his ass down. Not one Ruben fan was mentioned and then a bunch jumped in like hovering vultures.
Typical.
Anon at 6:51, Yep! He sure did make a statement but sometimes it's like we're the only ones that understand his code.
Helloooooooooo! JPee, are you listening? He's had it with all of you. He ain't messing around anymore.
Typical!!
Yea, that OC!
Just me or anyone else not able to click on JP's blog. I know, I know, I shouldn't go there, but I do.
I always get excited that he is has crossed the line and out of business. It's probably just my computer.
Here's a link to a tv interview with Jean chick:
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=local&id=4446774
Oh my God! I need to bleach my eyes because I went to JP's blog. Had no trouble getting in, Anon. He is most definitely carrying on a conversation with himself. You can tell by his spelling when he's gotten loopy.
Another link no one has mentioned or knows about:
Michael Lucas and PH BIG Peta supporters.
Think about it.
Whatever happened to that Fox interview? And the other 2 or 3 porn videos he was contracted to film?
He calls HS "friend" and HS didn't remember his name when he had PH on a few weeks back.
We have ourselves a jealous queen...having a temper tantrum because his name is fading into obscurity. He'll never get the acknowledgement he desires.
You know, I don't know any Clay fans who ever wished any ill will on Ruben. And some would buy his CD. I won't now because of Emach. She is an evil person.
Oh my God! I need to bleach my eyes because I went to JP's blog. Had no trouble getting in, Anon. He is most definitely carrying on a conversation with himself. You can tell by his spelling when he's gotten loopy.
Fruitcake! I so live close enough to him to smell that!
These people(pickle, Emach, all of them) are scared... Aiken is coming back to us and he will show them who has it and who doesn't. They don't and never did! I can't wait!
You know, I don't know any Clay fans who ever wished any ill will on Ruben. And some would buy his CD. I won't now because of Emach. She is an evil person.
7:22 PM
Oh I will not either, it the same dreck as his first. I so wanted him to fill Luther's shoes and he can't. So whatever.
Anon, maybe you need the bleach worse than I do. Put it in an old Windex bottle and start spraying his yard so whatever it is doesn't live long enough to get near you.
Anon, maybe you need the bleach worse than I do. Put it in an old Windex bottle and start spraying his yard so whatever it is doesn't live long enough to get near you.
Oh he'll never get that close. Bleach kills even AIDS you know. He's a worthless little turd. Oh and all his neighbors know.
Anon at 7:22, Some fans were pretty upset at the outcome of AI2 and did say some things but when the fans saw Clay and Ruben together during their first interviews it was too cute and mood toward him went away but will probably remain for the judges and the show itself.
Emach and her crew carried a grudge from that time forward and kept up with the dirty tricks and the bashing. Things were said on both sides at first but to my knowledge the Clay fans quit the snide remarks. The only thing said after those first interviews is that we wanted TPTB to cut the apron strings and let the boys do their own thing. They were wearing both guys out by AI putting them in interviews together and it was time for them to fly on their own.
Can someone please translate what Emach is talking about in the first part of her post? I can figure out the last part....thanks!
I still have high hopes for Ruben filling Luther's shoes. I know he can do it. That style of singing should never be lost.
And Truth just made me snort. Do they have a tabloid spot for liars on Fox? Wait...maybe one of the voices did the Fox thing and the voice goes by a different name.
Early into the spewage from pickle he talked on PH about how he "imagined and dreamed" of he and CA and pickle would be a stay at home husband and greet CA when he got home from his red carpet day.
NO JOKE, I have screen shots of it and it was pickle!
BIG TIME STALKER!
You'd almost have to see the first couple of pages to know what was happening. Some Clay fans were having a conversation about Groucho going down and him having told people to break CDs, hide them, etc.... The girls were having fun saying that they could take the broken CDs and mail them to all these addresses they collected of people who would just love to have a Clay Aiken CD...meaning Emach's and Kelly's crews. Then one of Emach's gang made a smart ass remark and it was deleted. Then another Rubenite enters and starts flipping out, then another and then they started rehashing shit from 3 years ago and then denying Woodle was caught with her pants down doing some JP loving. Enter Emach
Who is Woodle?
He's still a stay at home; you'd think he'd be happy. I still like the remark about the small hands and then asswipe Stern asking about size. That pretty much clinched the lie. Gave me the proof I needed if ever asked.
Anon, Woodle is one of Emach's friends.
Not to mention the several "Clay told me only" statements that pickle said which were official annoucements or in every clack video or daily news thing.
One of my favorite lies of PaulAss is when he said that Clay has a tendency to gain weight while on tour because he doesn't have a chance to work out. BWAH!
7:50PM:
What pickle actually said was that he had hoped that he and his boyfriend could live in the mansion together and he would welcome Clay home from a long tour where they would discuss what all couples do when they haven't seen each other for awhile.
He denied saying it but it was definitely him. We have spies everywhere. He's just pissed because Clay isn't interested in him.
ROFLMAO...I don't remember him saying that but it's been a long time since I listened that interview. Clay, work out? Tendency to gain weight on tour? Good Lord, how did I miss that? Probably because I was sobbing so hard at the injustice and lies during the whole thing.
Would love to hear everyone else's favorite lie from that interview or any. A good laugh is in order.
What about the one where PaulAss said that Clay kept his hair permed because his mother hated it. I'll bet that was their little secret. Except NOT!
My favorite is when PaulAss claimed on his blog that he had assets and owned property in FL! His a$$ is his only asset. He owns nothing except a lousy credit rating and a mountain of debt. Of course, you could always count his bankruptcy, eviction, foreclosure and two near foreclosures!
Another of my favorites. Hinting that IT didn't hurt.
More include the dreading dastardly day 01/02/06 in which CA first came from his mothers' house in which 25 people + were staying and went to meet him, then it changed to CA renting a car in NC and meeting him at a cheap ass hotel. Then it changed to coming from the airport and meeting him at the cheap ass hotel and CA who lived in NC most of his life didn't know where Dunn was or the hotel. Then first he didn't see CA new car, then he did, then it was the rent-a-car then it went back to CA new Mercedes and he said he saw the new navigation program on CA new Mercedes although it was still at this point his rent-a-car.
Then there is the dreaded lube in the hotel. It wasn't there, then it was, then CA brought some, then it was pickle who brought it.
Then there is the kissing thing. On HS, pickle said CA did not kiss him AT all, then on the porn speaks interview he did and "pleasured" pickle also.
I'm tired on typing!!!
He started the rent-a-car crap when we said CA was in NYC, which he was.
How about the one on 1/02 where he could see Clay's eyes clearly through the window, then on his blog someone asked him the exact time Clay got there to which he said 5:33. Well, Clay would have had to shine a floodlight in his face from the car because in the Southeast it's dark very early in winter.
The Emach clan cracks me up. It sounds like they are freaked out that anyone could know their reals names, addresses, etc....funny when you consider that they have been collecting our personal info for years and ACTUALLY using them as opposed to Clayfans snarking about gifting them Clay CDs.
The Roger story sounds like Paulus BS. Roger is a genuinely nice person from all I have heard.
It's pitch black at about 4:30p in the East in Jan and dang cold. According to Pickle CA didn't have a coat on but a sweater.
Anon at 9:08, I would imagine that Roger is pretty loyal to those he's responsible for and to. Just like Jerome who would probably put himself in harms way for Clay.
ROF, Yeah that! And was able to get up, walk away and live to tell about it after all those quarter turns.
Speaking of quarter turns, did anyone else picture Clay having to ask somebody what that meant and the person probably choking on his/her Krispy Kreme? Christ, he can't tell crotchless panties from a bra.
My notes from when I first listened. Don't want to listen again. Updated to include JH.
Talked dirty – very much so
Lots of dirty words
Howard says bitch, whore?
John, says no nothing like that. Then he says he talks about positions and....well,
We’re going to do this many more times
How good it feels.
(Oh yep, those a dirty words, very much so - say inconsistent?)
Haven’t had sex since then
Never mentions getting tested for herpes or aids. Wouldn't that be a concern?
90 minutes – then much later says 60
Most popular guy since Michael Jordan. Famewhore much? Now Pickle tries to say Clay is a nothing and his career is over? A turncoat like JH.
Tina said her brother (John) had a huge thing for Clay, yet
John says he
Wasn’t sure he wanted a relationship – see where
The chemistry goes. Hah.
Howard says – he really wanted to get laid. John, says uh uh(yes)
And he doesn’t take a condom knowing “Clay” was horny?
Yeah right.
Also in that light, the quarter turns thing is from Openly Clay the website. If you go back to 2004 it is mentioned.
Again BFS!
I'm sure the hotel accommodated PaulAss by shining floodlights in the parking lot that night and Clay parked facing the back door just so PaulAss could see the crazed look in his eyes!
Why would Clay need directions to Garner anyway? He's been there many times and his family owns a business right down the street from the hotel.
I'm loving this. You know what my next blog is, don't you.
I remember the Pickle talking about his fantasy of being Clay's discreet boyfriend welcoming him home from a long tour. It was him alright. Dude is crazier than batshit.
My favorite Pickle story is when he posted his pictures of his computer desk with dirty kleenex and Renuzits all over the place. You could immediately envision this loser posted at his desk in his skivvies, 24/7/365, combing the Clay Aiken message boards for something, anything about the object of his desire. What a pathetic excuse for a human being! Find a purpose in life JP.
It's PaulAss who needs directions...how to get his head outta his a$$!
Also,
Pickle said CA was very active with dozens of dudes during this last Christmas tour yet on his blog of recent said CA hadn't got any in six months and was "ready" to get it.
I can concur the magic lube thing. First there wasn't any and I said no way 2 guys can go at it dry for 90 or 60 minutes then the magic lube bottle first, then jar, then back to a small bottle appear with CA finger prints all over it.
Don't forget the Thom Yorke is CA thing!
See, it's those little things the script writer forgot to include that messes JP up.
Don't you think the very picture Pickle said was CA of Thom Yorke was the one faked out to show the web cams photos.
Pickle said at that point, I'm the one who did the fake web cam photos.
My opinion.
The best J PEE Paulass lie ever is when he said Clay, while being tailed by an AI camera crew, hooked up with not one but TWO different guys on the same night on his visit to Raleigh. That Clay really gets around!!!! LOLOL UH HUH!!! Gotcha!
I would NEVER forget the Thom Yorke thing. When that pic popped up on JP's blog I could almost hear the Star Wars music playing as the Ewoks were turning the tide against the Storm Troopers. That was the turning point in the whole nightmare. One bust after another for all to see.
PaulAss has to excuse Clay's rudeness in leaving so abruptly after his "bonding" experience with PP. Clay had been having dinner with friends and excused himself to drive down to Garner to screw PaulAss! He was in a rush to get back before the dessert course so that his friends wouldn't realize he was missing!
Do you remember that photo he had of CA at his laptop in a tux at a mirror, the caption read "CA cruising on the sex websites". It was a publicity shot that TV Guide shot, the Laptop wasn't even on!
Haha, Anon at 9:42, there was a hint of a threat included in that comment when he posted it on the old Equalizer blog. He went in to delete 4 of his comments from that night but I got 'em.
I have all the threats including the death threats and immediately forwarded them to Jess Rosen.
Where's Polly Graf, she was on PH with me going head to head with him, I know she would have a butt load of lies also.
9:50PM:
The lawyers also have his blackmailing threats and threats to others. Word has it they're putting together a criminal case. Of course, PP could save himself by outing the ones who hired him. That's the only deal he's going to get from what I've heard. He knows Rosen's number.
What is interesting about all the crap, not one friend, not one peer, not one official said one thing which told me CRIMINAL CASE being put together.
I love this link:
http://www.sonymusicstore.com/store/catalog/MerchandiseDetails.jsp?selectionId=678846&skuId=112902&sms=myspace-caiken
Another tell tale that gerkin has totally made this up is his admission that he is like a corner cat with no place to go. He has said that on his blog. If he was telling the truth why would he be cornered?
Cause he LIED!
Anon at 9:57, I have no doubt that she is writing her memoirs on that subject to post. It'll be a dooooozy, I'm sure.
Anon at 10:03, that's right. Clay has Trademarked the term "Claymates" so JP could be in a world of heap big dog shit.
We have an interesting visitor at JP's blog - a gay man from Raleigh who doesn't quite agree with JP.
Anonymous said...
"Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
I live in Raleigh. I'm a gay man. It is not common knowledge that Clay Aiken is gay. It is a question raised, though, I have to admit.
12:25 AM
"Thank you for this honest post.
I can understand that it would be a question raised since it seems to be raised about almost everyone in the public eye. Clay mentioned it on Diane Sawyer about the first press release when he was publicly asked."
I've also never met a man who claimed to have been approached by Clay Aiken online. When John's story first broke, I brought up the topic to some male friends of mine while out at a bar. Their faces were blank. None of them knew or cared whether Clay Aiken was gay. Personally, he seems more childish/boyish than effeminate.
12:45 AM
You appear to be a new poster, and a resonable one, too. Do you ever see JP or that Tim guy and the others he has tried to bring into his story? I would think JP would have a difficult time showing up at the local gay bars."
No. I've never seen John Paulus at any of the gay bars, but word on the street is that he's shady and desperate for hook ups. He's been known to frequent the Capital Corral in Raleigh, looking for tall muscular men to dominate him. It's been said that he's HIV positive now and thus doesn't look for hookups for fear of being pummeled. His reputation in the Raleigh gay community was on the downfall before his alleged hook up with Clay Aiken. It was all very gossipy among gay men where he was concerned at one time, but now, since there have been no other accounts with Aiken, the story has pretty much died out. I find it very interesting that John tries to convince Clay's fans that it's common knowledge among the gay community that Clay is homosexual when no one I've ever talked to has ever encountered him or known someone who has. John is a very shady character indeed. Can't wait til you walk into CC again, John! I can't wait to pick your brain.
1:05 AM
BTW, I sent Mr Clive Davis a person link to that tin lizzy crap also which they had a disgusting made up story of he, CA, and Barry M doing it.
Maybe that got all this rolling?
Heehee 10:14, someone sent the link to Groucho's site to RCA and to the Gretna Chief of Police over the weekend and then Truth said someone contacted the Survey Company that Grouch used on his blog for that fake RCA Survey. You know, the one where one of his 6 "insider" personalities saw the numbers on someone's desk at RCA and relayed them to Grouch by memory?
So it's rumored that Buddy might be HIV positive? Too bad, I was so envisioning him perfecting his quarter turns for more than one Bubba! I guess they'll just isolate him in a prison hospital with a baseball bat for company.
In the posts on "I Probably Hate" the guy who said he made up all the VPB thing said that on the description of VPB originally it said he liked to be dominated by large men especially jewish men.
Hmm..
Do we have a winner?
Oh Crap, let us know when you are stopping approving comments for the night please.
Interesting post from the man from Raleigh that says he's gay and has never heard anything about Clay.
I remember reading that all of the tabloids were looking high and low for any dirt on Clay during his stint on AI - no one could find a thing.
Anon at 10:14, what a find! Yes, sometimes Clay is boyish but part of what captivated us was the little boy prankster who could turn on the charm and become the sexiest ding dang REAL MAN walking on long legs. I hope all this shit hasn't stripped him of that little boy. I love him.
Yeah but 10:26, Bubba will be just as happy because he likes to welcome his bunkmates with baseball bats and flag poles.
And they will LOVE the fact he is a big porn star!!
WRU, I think I will go to bed in about an hour but will definitely let you know when I am shutting down for the night. Everyone is welcome to keep thinking and posting because I'm sure there are more tidbits that will come to mind and I cannot wait to make a blog out of it. It may be Polly Graf that actually does the blog because I think it would be a riot with the talent she has for paraphrasing.
If there is anything that someone doesn't want me to use in the favorite lies blog, let me know.
Thanks! OC!
I appreciate it!
No need to post this.
Why, yes! The big porn star who hints Clay is small and he is ok (HS interview) then we see a pic where Perez points out the crotch and you see the 2 inch floppy print.
I guess if PP goes to jail he'll have to give up his favorite hobby of maxing out credit cards.
In that vain, he said 6 inches for several months but wow, CA grew another half inch and now is 6 1/2 inches, which we know is WAY too small;)
oh crap:
How do we get in touch with you?
He's way bigger than 6". All you need do is watch that "You Got A Friend" video and you can see for yourself. Our man is HUNG!
Anon at 10:52:
equalize_this@yahoo.com
I've got a couple of things to add to the list of - do you remember...
Have any of you ever traded emails with someone as fast as PP and "Clay" did? In one minute, received, read, and responded...more than once?
Have any of you ever used IM and NEVER both typed at the same time, so your convo overlaps?
One other thing - PP claimed more than once that he was upset that Clay didn't respond to his "thank you" emails/IMs (?) after. Why did he never produce those? And why thank a person you thought was a jerk, even if it was a celebrity?
Anon at 11:12....yahhhhhhhhhh! Then there's the one titled "What the hell is it", then the shot of all shots is the IT WDC Deluth (Atlanta)...and that's the one I need a You Tube of tomorrow, Oh Technical Person with the brains!
Great read on the lawsuit, it's towards the bottom of the page:
http://www.glitteratigossip.com/glitterati/
I almost forgot about those timed email. He had to have had his script right in front of him and whipped them out at record pace. Maybe he had to pee and that's why JP typed so fast to himself and then answered himself.
Do you remember that other imbecile porn guy Mario Cruz that happened almost a year before with same allegations. I think he was hired first and didn't deliver so the evil powers that be went looking for looser #2 and got idiot pickle.
Heehee...love it, WRU. Best read about the suit yet.
See, I missed that whole Mario Cruz thing because I never ventured away from the 2 boards I belong to. I was totally unaware and the only fighting I was doing was with Emach and Shannonpickanumber
I have IMed with the man. I know what IMs look like. They don't look like the ones he posted, I can assure you.
This was on tin lizzies blog:
Quote:
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For those of you who are interested...
I am passing along a message from a friend of mine...because it involves people that I care about...I am going to post her message in it's entirety. Whether you know Frances (Aunt Frances) or not, the message is completely true...it is being posted on numerous boards...I am posting it here.
From: Frances Wilson
I don't post very often at the group sites but many of you know that information I give you is reliable. Throughout the last couple of years I've met some very wonderful people who have become very good friends to me and for that I am truly thankful. I'm sure the same is true for many of you as well. I do want to caution you about some who claim to be fans and you may be aware of one or two yourself. Some will claim to be friends/family of Faye or Clay, telling stories from Clay's childhood that may or may not be true. Some of these people have known people who has known Clay for many years, but they themselves did not know him, but claim to have known him since he was a child. One person from the Raleigh area fits this mold very well and is planning to write a book. The book this person is writing has not been endorsed by Clay or anyone from his family. Family and true friends will not use Clay for personal gain. I must say that Clay did sing at the wedding of the daughter of the person I am referring to. Clay did not know the family prior to the wedding. Weddings are personal to me, but this person used her daughter's wedding video for personal gain by selling them on Ebay. So now she wants to write an unauthorized book about Clay and/or his fans. Many of you may have met this person. I know that she attended the BAF Gala in Hawaii at the expense of some of the fans because they thought she was a close family friend. How sad that those ladies were used, once again for personal gain. Please be careful of predators claiming to be one thing, but in reality is another. I don't want to see any of Clay's true fans be taken for a ride.
Blessings to you all.
Frances
I loved that IM bust. "Ding ding! We have a liar!" Funniest damned line.
Here we go, does it sound familiar at all to you: BTW he works for Michael Lucas also:
http://www.gawker.com/news/culture/more-male-prostitution-clay-aiken-engaging-in-wholesome-gay-sex-33131.php?mail2=true
Ahhhhhh... I do have to call it a night and this is the most fun I've had at this blog thing since the first night JP invaded the old one and we kicked his pickled ass. I'll check one more time for comments and then I'm out.
Goodnight you clever, snarky, wonderful friends.
Nite all, check out the anon and the link, you'll like it!
Hot Damn! Anon at 11:45, Tin Lizzie just scored one for the Aiken and probably doesn't realize it. Anybody see a personal name in there besides Aunt Fran's? Bwahahahahahaha!
Ok. I'm out.
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