One of the Clay Aiken Fan Forums that I'm a member of found the following new tidbit on Clay's bio at Wikipedia:
"Clay is now openly gay, and lives with his life partner - Richard Loblaw, a licensed dermatologist - in a residential area of Sacramento, CA."
Of course, we know that Clay is living platonically (snort) with Kristy Barnes, female, at his new home in Raleigh, NC. We also know that he is living openly as a straight man; has been, is, and always will be.
My curiosity piqued in the past when references in Clay's Wikipedia bio were made to the MESS. I discovered that some esteemed fans contribute to Wikipedia and I also found that some NOT so esteemed fans contribute to Wikipedia. I asked myself, "WHY would reference be made to the scandalous tabloid lies and why would the Purple Gherkin have a bio in Wikipedia?" It got answered very quickly: The owner/founder of Wikipedia is gay and someone from the OC is a contributor.
Out of curiosity this morning I typed "Wikipedia Gay Porn Stars" in my browser and wouldn't ya know I'd find these entries:
"List of gay porn stars - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia"
"Gay Porn Studios - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia"
"Kyle Bradford - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia"
Well, these were just 3 of the entries. There are 9 PAGES of this garbage and when your child or grandchild uses Wikipedia online as a reference in the future they may just stumble upon some gay scandal reference in the bio of anyone they have to do a report on. Perhaps one of these gay porn references may be sandwiched alphabetically between what the child is REALLY looking for and the child may get curious.
In my opinion Wikipedia isn't interested in screening out what's not the truth. Like other gay gossips, it appears they leave in the innuendo (lies) as if it has merit. I know that some contributors have argued the point that it's not in anyone's best interest to leave the lies in the bios but the efforts were futile when it comes to gay issues and a certain cutesexysingerboywhohappenstobestraight. I keep asking "Why? What's the real point?" My mind keeps answering, "I think it's YE OLDE GAY AGENDA."
Parents and Grandparents, Aunts and Uncles, Guardians and Sitters: Time to reintroduce younger family members and charges to YE OLDE FUNK AND WAGNALLS where FACTS take priority over gossip.
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Although I totally think that Wikipedia is a joke (a good idea that went seriously wrong because the whole world is not comprised of good-intentioned people), I don't see where that comment is on Clay's writeup. If anything, his writeup has improved with the addition of some of his most recent press coverage.
Perhaps someone woke up and removed the reference. If it's no longer there then I will delete this blog post. It just irks me so badly that people in a position to be responsible are NOT in the least.
Duff, Boyfriend Seek Restraining Orders
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LOS ANGELES (AP) - Singer-actress Hilary Duff and her boyfriend, Good Charlotte singer Joel Madden, are seeking restraining orders against two men they claim are stalking them.
Duff, 19, and Madden, 27, filed requests in Superior Court on Thursday for protection from David Joseph Klein, 50, and a man identified by first name as Max, according to court papers.
The documents claim that Max "Doe" is a 19-year-old Russian immigrant who came to Los Angeles for "the sole purpose of meeting and becoming romantically involved" with Duff, a multi-platinum recording artist and former star of TV's "Lizzie McGuire."
"He has admitted to being 'obsessed' with her, has stated his intention of removing his 'enemies' (i.e. those who prevent him from being with her), has stated his intention of purchasing a weapon, and has threatened to kill himself and to engage in dramatic actions to get her attention," the court documents claim.
Klein and Max could not be reached for comment; there was no phone listing for Klein.
According to the papers, Max rooms with Klein, who says he is a celebrity photographer.
"Over the past six weeks, the defendants have engaged in an accelerated effort" to contact Duff, including visits to her neighborhood, her mother's home, Madden's neighborhood, a venue in Hollywood where Madden and Good Charlotte performed, and direct calls to Duff's manger, the documents claim.
Los Angeles police detained Max outside of Good Charlotte's concert after the band's security personnel alerted authorities to the pair's presence, according to the papers.
Duff and Madden are requesting that Max and Klein stay at least 100 yards away from them, Duff's sister Haylie, 21, her mother Susan, 53, and Madden's twin brother Benji.
Duff's publicist Ivy Mullencamp and the couple's attorney Larry Stein declined to comment.
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Sounds like Pickle's methods have been copied!
That Doctor isn't listed on WebMD, what a bunch of crap!
Clay is straight and live with Kristy!
I don't think the Pickle is capable of original thought. I'm sure HE has copied others.
I don't know why they don't arrest stalkers. It's getting to be a dangerous business and demaning the stalker not come within 100 yards of a star is still giving them carte blanche to stalk.
PUT THE BASTARDS BEHIND BARS. 19 years old is tooooooo young to have to go through something like that. I don't care whether the law states that celebrities should have tougher skin.
H. Duff IS STILL ONLY 19, lazy assed lawmakers.
I can, too, spell "demanding"..
cannot....can too....cannot... can too, can too, can too.
LOL OC!
If I don't have spell checker, my spelling scksu aslo!
I hope one of our crack Wikipedia contributors and editors are on the job. I remember last winter the fight that ensued over the effort to keep the tabloid rumors out, verses the OC insisting it stay in, along with a reference and link to their board.
Don't tell me the OC doesn't have an agenda. They can act the innocent fan if they want to, but we know better. Publishing such blatant lies in a visible public source like Wikipedia is definitely libelous.
I now believe the entire Rose/Heather scenario regarding the Tyra show was staged to rile up the fans in a rather obvious attempt to expose the "perceived" homophobia of the fans.
Are you willing to accept the concept that this isn't about Clay being gay? Alrighty, then.
It's another twisted argument to insist that by supporting and taking someone at their word is somehow forcing that someone to be something they're not.
Some of the Wikipedia articles would curl your toes.
The press does use Clay's article in their write ups.
And vandalism is rampant there.
OOOOOOOOOO...while we're taking a little of the focus off the sour pickle, how about Mr. Titanium calling out Clive Davis in that Tyra interview?
For those who haven't seen the recaps on the various boards, Clay said the Covers CD was a ....ta da... CLIVE DAVIS MANDATE.
The CD is absolutely top notch and I will play it and love it for the rest of my days but let the TRUTH FLOW, BIG BOY!
Yes ma'am...not only a mandate, but a command!
Of course, we're all conspiracy theorists in believing someone wanted to hold Clay back in order for him not to overshadow all the other "new" Idols debuting this fall. It worked really well for Mario!! I mean he had a video and a top 10 single, but couldn't sell more than 12,240 in 2 weeks!! Sort of like last year when Simon wanted to promote Il Divo and Clay had to step aside!
I'm sorry, I erred. I apologize.
Mario is now at #159 on Billboard Top 200 with a grand total of 18,602 after 2 weeks.
I am not a homophobe nor do I hate gay people or dislike them for the lifestyle they choose. I do believe that they do suffer from mental illness. The fact is, they also recognize this and since they are so in denial, they create fiction from their own astute paranoia, hence why the repeated ad hominem attacks.
(John as an example) Thinks the world hates him and is out to get him. In his mind, he has erotomania. He is trapped into another world of delusional. The combination of all of these affective disorders proves that John has several personalities. I also believe that he is posting as anonymous pretty often to express his extreme hatred and distain.
This is one of the reasons why he abuses the internet, but uses the excuse as being an American. He tries to be rather combative, yet sly. You know this man is definitely not conscious, which proves he cannot be reasoned with. This man also believes that Clay secretly loves him and the usual "If I can't have Clay, no one else will". With that said, he is trying his hardest to bring Clay down, as well as, Clay's fans.
The sad part is, is John has managed to find people who hate/dislike Clay (for whatever reason, you don't even need a reason for what John is doing) and has managed to even change vulnerable, thin skinned, guillible former fans into thinking only John is right.
I had no idea Mario had an album out, WTF!
I don't get why they sign these people and don't promote them, just don't get it!!
Wikipedia is a great website, but I do believe that the weak links with closed minds, who abuse the internet; will do anything they can to try and ruin not just a good website, but a good man (Clay) in the process.
I often wonder when John Paulus will actually wake up and recognize that he is not just abusing the internet and his freedom, as well as, freewill, but himself as well.
OK, that last comment of mine at 10:01 makes no sense because a post that came before it is missing.
So much for the doctor roomate:
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7928/354/1600/LifeandStyleOct06.jpg
I'm starting to this CD and CA may be having a bit of a disagreement about his career path. Hopefully, CA can sign with a more responsive label next time.
Wow, Gifted! That's deep.
People, the word is disdain not distain.
Ok, the little kiddies can quit playing now. You fool nobody.
BUTT PLUGG claims time and time again that he is not a "FAN" of Clay's. He is only there for noble reasons, he only wants the truth and to get an apology, etc.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Sorry, I fell asleep there for a minute just talking about his supposed "reasons" for continuing this thing.
Now many people have called him out on being way too interested in all things Clay for him not to be a fan. I agree with every one of them and all their claims, I say you are 100% right.
I am completely convinced that BUTT PLUGG is the BIGGEST SCARY ASS FAN OUT THERE TODAY! His newest "Blog of Information" is people's recaps of the Tyra show taping!! I am like WTF?? He has scouted websites, many of them and is taking all their recaps and information, with their names, in red, and that is his blog?
BUTT PLUGG YOU HAVE OFFICIALLY LOST IT!! YOU HAVE NOTHING NEW TO SAY AND YOU ARE A PATHETIC ATTEMPT AT BEING A HUMAN BEING OR A FAN! YOU NEED TO TAKE A WALK, GET SOME FRESH AIR, TAKE A BREAK FROM THIS, YOU COME ACCROSS LIKE A MAD MAN!!!
Polly said....
Don't tell me the OC doesn't have an agenda. They can act the innocent fan if they want to, but we know better. Publishing such blatant lies in a visible public source like Wikipedia is definitely libelous.
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You know Polly you may have something there. Those girls were pretty damn vocal about being chosen to be in the audience. Funny how we haven't heard a word about thier "experience in the audience" since then! Not that I would want to hear it, I am perfectly happy with the recaps that I have read, thankyouverymuch!
1:11
I had no idea Mario had an album out, WTF!
Yes, he does and a video and single. His album was released on Sept. 26.
Go here -
http://music.aol.com/feature/americanidol
...and you can watch Mario's video for his new single, Gallery. It's #33. While you're there you can also vote for your favorite Idol of all time. Or peek in at some other Idol videos. Ruben's, Change Me, is also there at #28. But sadly, nothing new for Clay.
WRU - from what publication did that photo of Clay come from?
I don't think WRU-WRU-WRU is our WRU
That's fine, I sort of figured that, but I still would like to know the publication. LOl
What is this Bono blog I read about
in the other blog thread?? Just
wondering.
Gays are EVERYWHERE. Learn to DEAL WITH IT!!!
Yes, John and none of us have a problem with dealing with it. What we have a problem with is discovering that there are gays like YOU; vile, disgusting creatures who think you/they have the right to impose yourselves into others' lives and then try to control them.
YOU and gays like you don't deserve the rights you abuse.
Well, if you're any example, John. They're all hiding in their bedroom sitting behind a computer screen.
That dude is a serious freak and what is up with that fugly picture? Who would touch that fuglyassed face?
Blech. Put some frickin' clothes on, dude.
The asswipe said: Gays are EVERYWHERE. Learn to DEAL WITH IT!!!
The dealing part seems to be a problem for the gays, not us. We haven't made any big deal about trying to "out" anyone, especailly straight people. Certain gays, on the other hand, have set the rights movement back to the stone age, and are working on the Jurasic.
When their behavior takes on all the characteristics of a witch hunt, character assination plots, outright lies, and continued harrassment of people who have done nothing to them, in fact have never met them, I'd say the gays are going to need to go back in the closest just to live this down.
Here's what I was talking about:
It was in the last blog the day 52 blog, before the Bono blog went up.
What this about?
Whether or not someone is gay is of no concern to me.
What is abominably offensive is the nasty ass militant in your face f* u attitude invading my space. That I will not tolerate and will do everything in my power to eliminate it and speak out against it every single time it crosses my path.
90% of the population is heterosexual. Of the 10% that isn't, only a fraction are S.O.B's. I'm tired of them throwing their shit in my face.
Butt plug still comes over here. I thought he was trying to sue you guys. LMAO
Thanks, Truth. That's really the only reason I let the asswipe's post through. It's not about gays; it's about gays like him. Point well made.
Stalkerboy isn't an asshole because he's gay. Being gay has nothing to do with what that prick has been trying to do for the past 10 months. He's a dickhead, plain and simple, I'd think the same thing if he were straight and doing this to someone.
His sexual preferene has no bearing on my feelings toward him. The fact that he is an idiot, fool, arrogant, narrow-minded, obsessed, delusional, stupid, mean, hateful, spiteful, evil, obtuse, and a complete asshole has everything to do with why I hate him.
Daily double has it and several others about half way down the current page
Life & Style - "Stars have roomies too!"
My stepson is gay, we have gays living next door and it doesn't bother me the least bit, they breath the same air I do, they put their pants on the same way I do,It's gays like ASSWIPE that makes gays look bad. I talk to the gays next door all the time, hell I have even been over for a cup of coffee. They are so respectful to my family and myself. They just love my son to death. I would never hate on them because of ASSWIPE.
Thanks, WRU
Here's a reality check.
Pretend for a moment that Clay's stalker was named Joan Paulus and was a nearly 40 year old (ie, middle aged) woman. Everything else is the same: the story, the blogs, the hate, the relentless smear campaign...just take "the gay" out of the equation.
Would she be believed?
Would she have "followers?"
Would the tabloids and gossip blogs keep picking up her story as true or would she be laughed at?
Would she have been committed to some asylum 8 months ago?
(Glenn Close..Fatal Attraction, anyone?)
Gayness has nothing to do with the fact that he's a scary, batshit crazy freak. By making it a "gay" issue, he, and those who support him, drag an entire community down into the depths of his vileness.
Anon, it's also about the fact that JP and his ilk are a walking contradiction. We've heard the bullshit that they want Clay to be gay so he can be a roll model. Lance Bass is out and as far as I can tell, he's just as nice, easy on the eyes, and he can sing. Why hasn't the focus switched?
This is a personal vendetta, just not sure who's yet...when we find out who is footing the bill then we'll know. I do believe we are close to finding that out.
Playing the "gay" card is just the same as playing the "race" card. It does nothing more than cloud the issue. The issue is about lies, defamation and character assination.
I've had my suspects OC, I do hope
we are getting close to finding out
who's got the personal vendetta and
is footing the bill.
If Clay were gay, which I do not believe he is, what kind of role model could he possibly be after what the assholes have done to him during the past 10 months?
They have no conscience. None. They feel no guilt, no remorse, no humiliation. They are full of hate and must lead incredibly miserable lives, all of their own doing.
Can you imagine these people in real life? I'll bet they are meek, weak and let people walk all over them. I bet they hate their lives and the only way to express their hate is to come to a hate blog and spew their own form of righteous indignation.
Get help, people. If you are being abused or walked on in real life, ask for help. This is doing nothing but showing people how weak and pathetic you are in your real life.
Get help.
Anon at 4:32PM:
AMEN! That should be a blog.
Hasn't Asswipe been 39 for a long time now? If he's 39, I'm still a virgin!!!!
Opposing viewpoint:
I am offended and horrified by those still living in the dark ages of ignorance that believe attraction to same sex is a mental illness.
Science has already found evidence that chemicals in the brain determine sexual attraction. A God given birth right.
Perhaps with more research treatment will be available to those who desire it. But in the mean time it is the natural make-up in specific humans. As is freckles - black skin - blond hair - tall - thin - etc.
I sure would love to comment on that last post, but I won't.
Loblaw's is a grocery store in Canada with a President first name of Richard.
Oh crap... do ya HAVE to let JP post his pic on here? I just ate dinner and now I have to go throw it up!
Anybody can edit a Wikipedia entry. Teenagers do it all the time. Oh that's right, the maturity level of these idiots is that of a seventh grader.
As a bisexual woman and member of the gay community, I do not like what this opportunist (or his brigade of O&P followers) is doing and do not support it at all.
Anon at 9:16, if you are being truthful, thank you for the voice of reason. It's been a relentless attack on an innocent kid that turned into an attack on his internet fanbase for the fun of it.
Clay is the one that has remained constant against the bull, never changing HIS story. JP can't remember half of his.
This entire mess has become an endless arguement between people that frequent the gay sites, which seem to often involve lots of porn, and the normal fans that just flat out enjoy Clay Aiken for the wonderful singer/performer/human being that he is. I'm one of the later, and until this mess, never even knew that such filth existed - I've really had an education that I well could have done without!
I personaly think that JP is scum and should be ignorned completely. He thrives on any mentions. The others that post on his stupid blogs are Clay haters that fear he will beat their idols. The others are stupid 14 yr olds that just enjoy using dirty words. The other many posts, I think, are just JP talking to himself.
He will no doubt continue but he just makes himself look more and more like the fool he is.
Doesn't seem to be bothering Clay too much - can't wait for the Tyra show!
They're trying to spin the Tyra thing in a bad way, but ain't gonna happen - it was a GREAT interview!
I don't know how the swamp things can spin the Tyra taping as a bad thing but warped minds are capable of anything, I guess, except rational thinking.
I am a gay man and cannot stand what John is doing to Clay. Forcing a person out of the closet is unacceptable. Clay may or may not be gay but it isn't up to John to force someone out or act like he is doing any favors doing so.
I wanna meet Insane Bastard. I keep hearing he is a gorgeous man. He is bisexual, so I have a chance. Did I mention I love Clay Aiken and he is the best singer on earth? Clay Aiken rules! Love him and love this blog. One of the only that makes any sense.
normally, i wouldn't even pay attention to the sexual preferences of a wiki editor (who can be anyone at all), but in regards to clay aiken's wiki entry, one of THE main people on wikipedia who keeps watch on that entry is a man with the wiki name "mixvio" - he's often the person who argues for the inclusion of the gay rumours and especially the mention of the name JP within the article & talk pages. again, normally a person's sexual preferences wouldn't matter to me in the least in regards to online articles, but mixvio just happens to be not only a gay man, but someone who claims to be a gay rights & awareness advocate, who runs a non-profit gay rights organization. that's cool that he does that, but in this situation, i think his gay rights platform/agenda may influence his wiki opinion, and leads perhaps to a bias v. hetero Clay. just my opinion.
jp's latest blog, in the comments he posts: "Just remember.., I keep my promises. Oh and the storm- will hit three times over the course of three weeks. Just stay tuned. ;-)"
i wonder what he's got planned next? or is this just an attempt to keep people reading, waiting for rumours and drama to unfold?
I've let scumbucket/haters go they
ain't worth my angst or emotion
anymore. I choose to trust Clay and
my heart. Scumbucket/haters have
no hearts or souls, they sold their
souls to evil, let them rot in it.
calico - are you sure about "mixvio's" credentials? I seem to recall others who are on top of the Wikipedia crap saying mixvio is Groucho!
Mixvio is not groucho. He's a 21 year old who lives in NYC.
In response to a post upthread,
Buttboi doesn't have a nephew. As much as I hate John Paulus, I hate lies more.
Anon at 8:47 PM, I don't really want to allow JP's photo on here but we had a day where people were posing as our own regular bloggers and someone was posing as JP (why anyone would want to is beyond me). He's cried wolf so many times that we didn't believe him when he said he didn't post something...so it was suggested by one of our team members to allow the photos or avi to avoid having our identities "borrowed".
nzclaynz,
You just said it all. I agree totally.
Unfortunately or fortunately, depending on your point of view, JP will only understand about half of what you said (too many words he'll have to look up). Great post!
Back on topic. I think it will take a few lawsuits charging libel to get Wikipedia to clean up it's act. They're trying but they've still got a ways to go. There are way too many grey areas that need to be addressed there.
Recommendation of the day: Read Chexxxy's blog today if you haven't already.
I think she's hit upon something that needs to be said over and over again. To the OC, to the Gay OPS, to anyone else who can't take Clay at his word and believe what he's shown you of himself.... find someone else who fits YOUR criteria and who will bend to YOUR rules. If Clay is not what you were looking for then just go away.
I wasn't looking for him; he just showed up and I'll take him any way I can get him. No illusions, no impossible expectations... No shit!
Calico said: "but mixvio just happens to be not only a gay man, but someone who claims to be a gay rights & awareness advocate, who runs a non-profit gay rights organization.
So does Clarus!
I took the time to read through Clay's Wikipedia yesterday and it appears very accurate to me. It's unfortunate that all the rumor crap has to be mentioned at all, but it has become a "bone of contention" during Clay's career, as we've witnessed from the media over the last few weeks.
I also watched the Diane interview again and I've reached another conclusion. Diane said she was going to ask, as Clay would probably be asked over the next couple of weeks, about his orientation. When Clay said, "I don't understand why you want to know. I don't understand why it's any of your business," I think he used a collective "you" directed to the media in general, and here's why.
Not many in the media knows Clay as well as Diane does. Just think back to all the times Clay has appeared on GMA, i.e., appearances, performances, Platinum award with Clive, summer concerts (2), C'mas performances, and Primetime. Speaking of PT, Diane knows what she and Clay discussed during the Primetime interview. Either she believed him or she didn't. I now believe Diane was setting the stage for the media onslaught that was surely coming. It had to be done and who better to do it than Diane. We are forgetting this was Clay's first interview in over 9 months, amidst all the rumors and scandal. The media was waiting to pounce on him; forget discussing the CD, they wanted to get their claws into the juicy stuff. Diane reported that Clay said the rumors aren't true and used a new word in all of this: prurient: Inordinately interested in matters of sex; lascivious.
Diane paved the way for all future interviews for Clay to say he wasn't discussing the subject again, which should have sent a message to the others that they would get no answers from him.
Diane ended the interview by saying: "Hoping his fans will stick by him as the music starts and Here He Comes Again."
What I find interesting from last week is Simon's reaction to the question regarding Clay. Why the obvious agitation and hostility? Why the lack of compassion? Why the attitude? Have things not gone too well this year for you, Simon? Who really is the "idiot" in all of this?
And God bless Sir Elton!
OC...I don't think they can let him go. He has them hooked like he does a lot of us, and they almost "need" him (kinda like we do sometimes)They need him to fit them. He has to be this. or that because they need him to be so that thier feelings make sense. Clay does seem to have a powerful...something and it holds you whether you like it or not.(and that scares a lot of them) then there are the kelly fans,they are still spreading thier hate, I can't stand Kelly but I would never find the need to spread that hate all over.I just don't care. I don't go out of my way to notice her and what she's doing, why can't they)
Simon is probably pissed from forking over big bucks for JP to botch up what he was supposed to do.
(oops! Did I just say that?)
Polly Graf, you said exactly what I said immediately after the DS interview. Clay was addressing the entire media through Diane. I was positive this was something they worked out between them to get the message across. If people in the Media couldn't accept his STRAIGHT answers the previous 13 Plus times then they might as well suck eggs because he's not answering the question again. Celebrities shouldn't be put in that position anyway. I know they are fair game according to free speech but whatever happened to manners?
Poly and oh crap,
I totally agree about the DS interview. I always thought that was the purpose of this interview. Diane gave Clay a forum to put the issue to rest (as far as he was concerned) once and for all. Now he can just say "no comment". Good for him!
Weird~as you peel off all the layers of this onion, you just keep finding all these sub cultures with agendas who all share Clay Aiken as a target...
In no particular order:
-The gay rights marriage people. Look at bloggers like Pam S., lawyers like Arlaine, Wikipedia contributor mixvio
-The "I'm so cool beacause I'm gay or pretending to be gay college age females of the OC
-The "I have no life no so I'll invent fantasy role playing lives and write fiction" on the internet college age females- also often from the OC
-The I know kids..let's form a non profit gang...mixvio, clarus, essay and gang
-The transferance groups- people who are reliving the disappointments of their lives by identifying with someone they perceive to be a winner. They will fight to the death, using any ugly means anyone who seems to threaten the position of their chosen idol.
This is people like E, S, or G to name a few notables.
-The ego maniacs. This is a huge group that includes anyone whose basic mantra is...damn it, you WILL pay attention to me. These people create alter after alter when people realize who they are and stop listening. I also include in this group some people who fancy themselves to be writers.
-Internet slime. These people are just plain drawn to the tawdry, ugly, and vile.
-The opportunists. People looking to make a buck at Clay's expense.
-The insane...where does mental illness stop and evil begin? I won't list names because I don't know if I should feel sorry for these people or fear them.
The funny thing is, when you look at each of these groups and think about each of the players, you will notice how often the same people fit into different groups.
Sometimes it seems like a big rotten conspiracy to harm Clay but when you think about it, it's just one rotten stinking onion.
I've been busy with house guests, but I popped in briefly to view Buddy's blog, CB and this one and read about the Tyra show. (all I had time for)
One observation, hitting the news on the run. The more Clay appears on these shows, the more it deflates the hater's blogs. I agree that DS set the stage and now we are watching it unfold. It has always been apparent to me that Clay is the same guy I saw 3+ years ago. And, I would imagine pickle is the same guy he was 3+ years ago. Someone who has always been devious. He was pretty ignorant to take on Clay and "Clay Nation".
I realized we've veered OT, but where else can we discuss this?
I have to share this post with you from my friend at RHT. She's one of us, she just doesnt' know it and doesn't have as much time as some of us do. Here's her post:
It does seem insane that Clive would not promote Clay as he should, because HECK THAT WOULD MAKE RCA MORE MONEY?????
Well now what reason could there be for Clive dropping the ball ALL THE TIME, when it comes to Clay and his career?
PAYOLA!!!!!
There's payola in radio, what makes you think that it doesn't also live in the basements of the record companies?
SOMEONE WITH BIG BUCKS HAS GREASED CLIVE'S POCKETS IN ORDER TO HOLD CLAY BACK!!!!!
See now there's a logical answer, Clive does make money on Clay, but not by promoting him, but by keeping him from being a super huge star.
Next logical question, NOW WHO WOULD PAY CLIVE TO DO THAT???
Why, could it be another singer who would not want to be overshadowed by CLAY'S CD BEING A HUGE SMASH, AS IT WOULD BE IF THEY DID IT UP AS IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN????
AHHHHHH, you see logic does work!
Now if I could only figure out which artists paid big bucks to RCA, in order to ensure that Clay's sophmore CD fizzled (yeah I know by regular standards it didn't quite fizzle, BUT ACCORDING TO CLAY'S POTENTIAL IT MOST CERTAINLY DID!!!)
Here's my response, with a portion of what I posted here:
"****, I love your posts. Whether there is merit to what you say or not, it sure is fun to hear you speculate.
Does it have to be another artist? How about someone else with an axe to grind?
I think we've reached the point where it is so blatantly obvious that something is not right in the RCA stable. I seriously doubt it's because they don't know what to do with Clay. They are the experts...they could figure it out!! But no doubt Clay has the ability and potential to overshadow any of the Idols if he were promoted correctly and that would never do as long as the show is still on the air. I think advertising dollars are more important to them than the actual promotion of their artists.
What I find interesting from last week is Simon's reaction to the question regarding Clay. Why the obvious agitation and hostility? Why the lack of compassion? Why the attitude? Have things not gone too well this year for you, Simon? Who really is the "idiot" in all of this?
9:59 - I agree with your concept. There have been many different fractions, lurking in the shadows, who have some sort of vendetta against Clay. Butty just gave them a forum to come together to spew their hatred.
For example, I did a Google search last night for Love4mypets, aka Karen, aka Go John & Clay. Not only does she post at RHT and the CB, but I discovered she participates at Sucks (the Taylor thread among others), Clayton's Place (where last December they were discussing ex-fans and why they still lingered), and Votefortheworst or VFTW, which strongly takes the stand that Clay is gay. It was very interesting to see just how many people are on these hate boards that are against Clay. These are people that post right along side of us at times, but are hiding their true feelings and agendas.
Now this truly makes me sad.
I just learned that Ruben's CD is listed at #1211 on Amazon. Isn't it being released this Tuesday?
Where are his fans? Why don't they do something to support him rather than spend time on hate boards?
I have heard that the record execs do not like it when their artists get too popular, it makes them too hard to manage. I have also heard that the reason for the long delay in putting out this cd was because there were "artistic" differences between the label and Clay. I think it is within the realm of possibility that RCA could be trying to hold Clay back, but I don't think they have anything to do with the tabloid mess.
I hope Ruben's fans will come through for him. I don't know if the urban market buys much through Amazon. I read that Clive made a statement of support for him regarding this album. That's more than Clay got.
Polly, it's only a handful of Ruben fans attacking Clay. What a shame that they waste their time and energy doing that rather than spending it support for Ruben.
I like him and like his voice. While his music isn't my style, I'd never say anything bad about him. He's as much a victim of the AI/RCA machine as Clay, Kelly and all the rest of the idols are.
Where Kelly got a pass from all the nastiness is that because she's the first idol winner, they need her to look good to boost the franchise. Look what they did to Justin.
I'm digressing, so I'll shut up.
Perhaps Ruben will pick up numbers via downloads when the CD is released. For the first CD many Clay fans bought 1 Ruben CD to help since his supporters didn't show up in droves for the AI-2 Tour.
Cory (John Paulus's friend) is now trying to pose as Clay Aiken on John's blog. I know someone that saw Clay and Faye like 15 minutes ago leaving a restaurant. The waitress said that Clay and Faye eat there often and said they said something about going shopping. Even if Clay would read that blog (which I am very certain he does not because it would probably make him sick if he did) he can't be now because my friend is a huge fan (like myself) and she saw Clay with his momma.
As I pondered the strangeness of this past 10 months, I was thinking about something. Of all the venomous things pickle, tin's board and oc have spewed, there isn't one thing that has been proved to be true. In particular, pickle's crap. Of all the things he has tried to bring forward not ONE thing is verifiable. All those pasha and Tim's and Boston school teacher, Terry Goldman, superherofan's "friends" in Raleigh, the $10,000 men, im's, e-mails, telephone records, Fox interview, nothing, nada, zip.
I hope whoever it was didn't pay him too much. He failed miserably.
I wish there was a way to get ahold of Insane Bastard. I really could use more information. Does anyone have the information he posted before? Do you remember he said something about Cory? No one even knew who Cory was until Insane said something. That is why Insane is not lying about anything he says.
My last comment made no sense at all so let's try this again.
Please don't post things here about a possible Pickle nephew unless you have facts and can back them up and even then you need to take it to the proper authorities, not someone's blog.
OhCrap, think about it. Why would Insane lie about this? He has no idea this is being posted here (he posted it on his private group site) and why on earth would we know about Cory? Insane is the one that told us before John told us.
I wanted to ask that too. Oh Crap, do you have the stuff that Insane Bastard wrote before when he had found John's blog? Remember earlier this year he posted about it. That is how we all found out who Cory was. John wasn't even going to tell us. Then he made a blog about Cory's bogus story.
2:24 - I have the posts made by Insane. He did introduce us to Cory, by saying he was Butty's BF. He continued to say that Butty and Cory do this all the time...go after people with their lies.
From what I know of Insane, he was a mod at Manhunt, which probably means he was aware of phony profiles. He was allegedly a part of a chat room at MSN. He has a child, claimed to be bi, and is divorced. At the time (April) when he posted in a rage, he claimed his ex-wife was in the hospital.
It did appear that he knew both Butty and Cory and had known them for some time.
I know that IB has posted things and I'm sure he is well versed in the scams that Buttee and Corey run...of that I have no doubt. What I'm not sure of is... where did a nephew come from. Seems I remember someone bring up a brother but that was one quick comment and then nothing further on it and I stated at that time... did we know JP had/has a brother?
I've seen nothing so far that tells me JP has a brother or another sister, in fact, who might possibly have a son. For that reason, until it's proven, we could lose ourselves in spreading something that may not be. As much as I hate JP and all that he has done in this smear campaign, it's nothing compared to what he may have "allegedly" done to a relative. I can't imagine someone, even JP, exposing himself when it comes to something like this. Then, again, he could be more vile than I ever dreamed.
He does have a brother.
Oh Crap said Then, again, he (JP) could be more vile than I ever dreamed.
I don't think that's possible.
Ok. So verifications are coming in that he does have a brother and it's possible that JP is more vile than I ever believed. Imagine that!
I honestly think Insane has the goods on PaulASS, seems every time Insane went after PaulASS he would hide. I am with the others wish we had a way to get in touch with him. He has what we need to shut PaulASS down.
Butty has two sisters, Tinamarie and Caitlyn (not sure of the spelling) and a brother, Billy, who's in the Army. Tinamarie has at least one daughter. Not sure of the other sister. Billy is not married, don't think he has kids.
Where is this story about Butty possibly exposing himself to a nephew coming from? I never heard this.
If I go to jail, will you guys send me Clack!!
I know nothing of a nephew, but that doesn't mean one doesn't exist. You probably know this, but in the Paulus family, there are 3 siblings: John S., the oldest at 39; Tina C.(middle name may not be Marie), 37; and Richard V., 36. The only one that I'm aware of who has a child is Tina. If Richard is married and/or has a child, I've never heard it mentioned. In fact, it has only been on the rarest of occasions that Richard has ever been mentioned. Although, allegedly, it was Richard who "outed" John to his parents many years ago, according to JP.
It has been rumored that Richard lives in Oxford, Connecticut along with his father.
IF IB had the goods to shut JP down and he wanted to, why wouldn't it have happened by now? We all had plenty of notice that JP was going to come out with some tabloid lies, then he was going to do Howard Stern, then he told us 3 weeks in advance about the little webcams. IB has had plenty of time.
Insane Bastard is aware of John's blog, but not this one. We need to find insane. I did hear that he is very trusting and apparently has screenshots of John, but never sent them to anyone because apparently John accused him of doing it (apparently this happened when Insane was a mod at manhunt).
I heard Insane Bastard looks like Dave Navarro but taller.
I think John is a liar. I found a flaw in his words. On Perez, someone made a claim to have met John (I do believe his name is Greg) and John posted "If this is true, what is John's real name Greg" and then he said something along the lines of "What is John's real age". You know John is lying because why would ask those things. It's in the comments section of one of Perez's first blogs about Clay.
anyone know where chexxy is? Her blog is being spammed...big time!
If anyone knows how to contact her...could you do it?
Thanks!
Did you guys know that BUTT PLUGG has stolen our nickname for him? He has a link to a "PICKLE BLOG" where he is trying to report the news! I think he has been soaking in the juice too long!
1:11
He does look a little briney, huh?
Thanks, Kallie. Personally, I don't know how to contact her but I'm sure someone does.
I think John is the ugliest man I have ever seen. There is no way, that Clay (even if he were gay) would have anything to do with this John. I think this John is a stalker. I really do hope that Clay has extra security.
Michael Orland Has Great Comments About Clay in Image Magazine
Thanks to iluvyouclay at The Clayboard, we have learned that there is a great Clay mention in a Michael Orland article in Image Magazine. Image is apparently a magazine that is only available in California. To see a scan of this article, go to the "Image" Clayboard thread (link above) or click the Image link below
Michael Orland, who worked with Clay on American Idol, has some really wonderful things to say about him. In the Image article concerning Clay's AI5 appearance, he said:
First of all, I think Clay's spot was the highlight of the finale. And about his new look - when I first saw it, I was totally shocked and surprised, and then I got used to it.....I think Clay's new, great look is indicative of what is about to break for his future. He'll be hitting the music scene with fresh material in a big way. He's just got it - he's that talented and that different.
Concerning Clay as a person, he said:
Clay is one of the most giving nad generous performers I've ever known. When I worked with him on the Jukebox Tour, it became particularly evident. I have never seen a performer in my life who can share the spotlight as easily and genuinely with other talented people like he does and feel so unthreatened by it. That can only come from a feeling of complete security about who he is as a performer - its one of the things that make him unique.
When I read comments about Clay such as this by someone as talented as Michael Orland is and who knows Clay well, it is then that I especially realize that some of the bad reviews and comments made by other people are really fairly meaningless. These are the things that really count that are said by people who are much more "in the know", and we can feel very good about this great article.
I do agree scumbucket is very nefarious and truly vile.
"I have never seen a performer in my life who can share the spotlight as easily and genuinely with other talented people like he does and feel so unthreatened by it."
Proven once again by him insisting Quiana perform for the audience at the Tyra taping.
http://www.clayaikentheidealidol.com/possible-reasoning-ATDW.html
Read this first, if it is viable then please post it.
I just did a people search and there IS a Richard Paulus, aged 36, in Oxford, Connecticut. FTR.
Anonymous said...
I just did a people search and there IS a Richard Paulus, aged 36, in Oxford, Connecticut. FTR.
9:24 PM
He was just in CT last week.
Anon 5:21 AM
Could I have permission to use that??
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